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Surge, presented

Personal pencil drawing of Surge, with ever-supportive Tangle. This is the pattern-background we were talking about in an earlier piece.

We were hoping to find a body form that felt right for Surge, and, well, we did! There are a bunch of feelings here we've written about before and might write about again, but we're happy how they come through in the piece itself. This is also the work that (eventually) cemented, for us, that there's really nothing wrong with giving these character designs body proportions or forms which differ from each other.

newgrounds (2024-12-15)

Hey! We drew an art. It has two nude sonic people but it’s not sex. I don’t remember your level of OK/interest, would you like to see or nah?

👍
thats fine w me !
i draw my fair share of nudity . its all good

Kewwwwwls, pretty happy how it came out

!!!! yoooo thats awesome actuallyyyy
i love that, hell yeah!!!!!

Tyyyy thanks thanks

Tangle’s proportions are completely fucked if you try to look at her as mostly human shaped… but she’s lemur. It works out ok. Totally canon

mhm1!!!!shes a lemur :]
doesnt have to be all that accurate to humans

Nope. Surge though… Apart from some earlyish drawings this is the first time we really feel we’ve got her. Least as far as face and expression goes

Show don’t tell is for losers. We drew Surge first and wanted to do something halfway between “casual, like it’s nothing” and “badly self-conscious”. Feels like that mostly came through… she’s more person-shaped because, well, there’s a lot of feelings about taking the body you’re given, here

Belly button + nipples are on purpose too. It’s connections to the cycle of life that, like it or not, Starline didn’t take away from her

Shapes in the background don’t have real intention behind them, but clearly the hexagons are Tangle and the diamonds are Surge. Tiny circles could be anything but we imagine them as eyeballs. Circles - exposure. Diamonds - vulnerability, raw openness. Hexagons w/ hearts - protection, connection… They surround Tangle and not Surge on purpose - the one by her tail, wrapped around Surge, is intentional too.

woaahhhh thats really cool how thought out the shapes were tooo

it’s not a goal but we kind of do art for self-prescribed therapy lol

We take a ton of inspiration from floraverse and other webcomics that have used shapes and patterns to represent feelings… it’s a very powerful and accessible kind of expression

It’s as simple as depth, abstract context. Something for your eyes to latch onto when they phase out from the drawing - “what do these shapes mean? how do I feel about them?” - like prompts for introspection and reflection

They’re also nice when we’re expressively drawing ourselves bc we don’t have a visual headspace, so planting in an actual scene can feel kind of weird LOL

lan, discord

Hiiii

Im not doing good. Its nothin to do with you really but i just aint doin good. I dont even know that i wanna talk bout jack shit but just. Letting you know. That youre getting Fucking Depressed Surge T. Tenrec if you smuch as glance at me today

Not my greatest look but what can I say except fml

hey surge... i'm sorry you're not doing well! is there anything i could do for you?

I dont know. I dont think so
Just not right now, probly, is all.
Offerings enough on its own

I understand..
What are you up to, today?

Sleepin.
Mostly
hbu


https://youtu.be/Q0OfAgKqq50
https://youtu.be/zrTRReNibFY

oooh really good.. howd u find

I remembered this really great lesbian porn meme and was like wow wonder if the song composer isnt an AI loving three-decades-shmucking-on shmuck, somehow... turns out naw they seem cool


Nyway… Im done coding rn… Im hmm
Im coping rn (as opposed to not) but im a bit depressed lol

Shit like lying in bed most the day throws your metabolism outta wack. I think im badly hungry but i cant rly tell. I did eat. I gotta move maybe…

Mmm....
What's on yr mind?

Honestly rn its maybe separate from the depresso stuff (yea right), but the drawin Lan did. At some point it became “the drawing Lan did for me” in my head idk

IK u saw it earlier but p much no one was around to supply contextual anything lol

Really tho. Very silly but it feels like uh

Like gift art. Like someone who you want to commission surprised u with a drawing they were planning to do anyway

Ive been calling it a drawing of me (and tangle) and thats literally right, it is us, but its also… Its only clicked rn that its also. A Drawing

Aka a work of creation and a rendition and intepretation. Its about my feelings but theres a lot of Lano inside it yknow

So yea it feels like a gift

Nodnodnodnod
Do u want to talk abt drawing more??
Less present now gonna be kitchening

Mayb
I think Lan wrote about it some

These diamonds kinda matter to me. I donno where to place it but some of them have a smoother edge/vertex. Feels important

Im probably nuts but i think we kinda have. Arthur character proportions, going on here?? Anyway its underarm hair bc… yeah. I dunt see anyone talking abt underarm hair

Its nude but theres a lot of not quite standard nudity. Rings and earrings, duh, but binder + tall socks too for tangle

Mhm hm mhk mhm

Idk the big sense here is like

The tangible experience of vulnerability over yr body

I think the foreground background framing works well for that

Its from the POV of someone in-universe looking or taking a photo (or them getting a photo of themselves w/e), you can tell by how shes looking, like, forward. Focused on someth

The background diamonds + hexagons are supoosed to look rly close to them. Theres small dots and those are further away

Should be clear by their legs

Put those together n its like

The patterns frame them but they dont guard them from you the one looking, who shes looking back at you

But the patterns do exist as a layer between them and the rest of the world (those dots)

On toppa that… youre seeing the patterns from their point of view. Like imagine theres a forcefield around them, youre seeing it from the inside, not the outside

We were rly happy w/ these eyelashes

Tangles not a setpiece here or nothin! But shes… mostly here for textual company + metatextual contrast. Yknow

Smth i wanna get at in art n writing n shit is like

Using relationships n character dynamics to represent stuff thats not… fundamentally tied to the experience of two literal actual people

Stuff you could relate to, find something in, even if youre a lonely lil fucker who thinks theres no one around them at all

Rly want the energy inside these two to feel very different, even tho theyre both toward the goal of “present and appreciate how surge looks”

Also all our fookin art is focused way hard on touch in ways i dont even notice lol

Hand placements are like. Fun i think

We had my entire pose done before we thoughta putting tangle in. So its like… it is kinda… huh im surprised in a nice way. By the ways tangles drawn touching, here. Those werent part of The Plan. Kinda became essential though

Werent part of my feelings so i notice theyre a thing and get surprised

Theres a reason we did these two. Theyre both afabbers or w/e, they got that “this is how we are shaped bc our genetics shaped us this way” shit going. And they both feel a bit complicated bout that

The takeaways probably arent that different but theres like… I mean theyre different people, they got different feelings in the end… and theres just this dynamic where tangles being supportive but its still clearly surge taking a step for herself yknow

Oops cartoon child abuse + nudity in childrens media are u even kidding me sega????? But anyway note no earrings here

She gets her punk getup somewhere between brain fucky trials 50 somethin and 200 somethin

So yea like theres uhhhhhhh

The Inevitable Father Frucking Tension in our drawing

bc yeah its her body and yeah no she aint chucking away her whole entire vibe just bc it was crafted in a lab.

But its still a vibe he gave her and a body he fucked with more than a little bit

message from Lan earlier: Belly button + nipples are on purpose too. It’s connections to the cycle of life that, like it or not, Starline didn’t take away from her

Who knows where her body came from! Who knows what kind of gd childhood she lead. That stuffs all long long long gone. But gdi shes still a freaking mammal, and has the mammal things to prove it, and that means she has parents and could be one herself. Shes not the start and shes not the end.

Starline took her past and he surely tried to keep her present, but shes still in charge of her future. And apparently rn, that future looks like *gestures at entire drawing* this.

Muhhh Im gone ta bed but my head hurts lol. Headache. Ood
Oof

hey sorry im away! party very loud

All ok!! Dont fall in!!

Im falling in :/

surge, signal

i'm glad!
i'm jealous of your artistic dedication really
i really want to have the habit loop..

honestly…
came across it, really came across it, with writing first
round aug-sep-oct last year

art a little later ^^;; it comes easily mostly because

art is no burden… free… it is- like,…
the opposite of physically taxing ^^—
not always so emotionally, but often
freeing? we recommend:

  1. brain ghost girlfriend
  2. work 413 hours per week
  3. chronic sleepy
  4. caffeine
  5. ummmmm
  6. writing block (do art) art block (do writing)

« have two creative outlets » <- perhaps actually good advice, re: manifesting-maintaining a habit


thinking idly about surge’s hair, neck… feels like a thunderstorm

contemplating the significance of our art to us, and what others seeing our art means to us

there are feelings in any of our pieces that we get to “own”, because they are our own art, even if the feelings are post-hoc and interpretive…

in some ways it is different from interpreting another’s art and projecting one’s feelings in doing so - but - in some ways it is similar to that too

of course i acknowledge this is a piece lanolin created, which surge accepted-received as a gift, and so rather quite separate from ‘me’

…which matters insofar as… reading her hair as a storm - this is my feeling, my… experience of whatever lies inside this piece

and… of course all our art is us, is an extension of us… not something independently alive, but an alive part of us, an alive expression of us

this is probably the main difference between us and another, ‘observing’ our art

the piece as an illustration is unchanging, but its liveliness is within us, so we touch it when we see it, feel something about it - with it

a spiritual component to this…

of course there is no material change, to experience a change within a piece, as far as someone else viewing the piece is concerned: if we show it to you today and show it again in a year after we feel something new by it, what has “really” changed?

but - ‘least, as far as i am concerned ^^;… - i do think something new enters the piece and is transferable to anyone who sees it

without this belief i think it would feel difficult to want to share, in nearly any context… i do not need it reciprocated but i do need to believe in it myself

it is difficult to ground that belief in online contexts which encourage careful presentation, composition, advertising even, all with an eye for reach and appeal… i think it is possible to believe in that connectiveness anywhere and anytime, but can be difficult, in that sort of environment

we mostly do art for ourselves and for each other, but we also do it for everyone who will look, because we want to share

… … can take some comfort in - no contradictions, no intrinsic tensions, in any of my feeling-observations above ^^

rare… a quiet-gradual maturity perhaps. easing


…………….cursed with cannot-fall-asleep ;;

4) caffeine
perhaps pt 4 was in err

whisper, signal

cemented that there's really nothing wrong with giving these character designs body proportions or forms which differ from each other ... possibly manifested in more animal-ish designs all around. we certainly noticed and decided to accept tangle's not-so-human look here, which offered peace for an early important piece. maybe came around later in this one