From dedaf39b656db1ec1365a4c08b42bf6634c8d81d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "(quasar) nebula" Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2026 20:03:36 -0300 Subject: 8r8k --- flashes.yaml | 1467 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-- 1 file changed, 1433 insertions(+), 34 deletions(-) (limited to 'flashes.yaml') diff --git a/flashes.yaml b/flashes.yaml index caedd185..30e01928 100644 --- a/flashes.yaml +++ b/flashes.yaml @@ -2487,7 +2487,7 @@ Featured Tracks: URLs: - https://beyondcanon.com/story/653 Commentary: |- - Miles, James Roach: ([Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/posts/06-2024-writer-108028072), 9/13/2024) + Miles, James Roach: ([Patreon: "06-2024 Writer Commentary"](https://www.patreon.com/posts/06-2024-writer-108028072), 9/13/2024) [[artist:miles|MILES:]] THE [S] PAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @@ -2499,9 +2499,9 @@ Commentary: |- Also nobody ever tells you how inconvenient it is to type brackets all the time I’m going back to calling them flashes. - Kim Quach, Chumi: ([Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/posts/06-2024-artist-107993576), 7/12/2024) + Kim Quach, Chumi: ([Patreon: "06-2024 Artist Commentary"](https://www.patreon.com/posts/06-2024-artist-107993576), 7/12/2024) - [[artist:kim-quach|Kim:]] The last thing we see of her until we see her get zucked into The Point…. R.I.P. Vriska you will be missed….. jk she’s fine (probably), but let’s get to talking about the animation! + [[artist:kim-quach|Kim:]] The last thing we see of her until we see her get zucked into The Point.... R.I.P. Vriska you will be missed..... jk she’s fine (probably), but let’s get to talking about the animation! As some of you may have already heard, this particular page wasn’t initially going to be a whole sound page. Actually, the writer of this particular update, [[artist:miles]], said he originally envisioned this would be a short gif LOL. But the more I worked on boarding this particular sequence, the fancier it got. It felt appropriate that it’d be a little Epic and Mysterious. “What does this machine do?! What happened to Vriska?! What’s happening?!?!?” Need to build up that tension! @@ -2511,11 +2511,11 @@ Commentary: |- I did consider for a hot second hand animating the first four shots (like the sliding assets and the warping), because AE can kind of be hell to fiddle around with. But y’know what I realized. It was more hell to hand animate it LOL. - What I HAD to hand-animate, though, was the actual Vriska warp as she’s flying into the portal, the sand in the timer, and the fire. If I hadn’t, any preset I could find only seemed odd looking… + What I HAD to hand-animate, though, was the actual Vriska warp as she’s flying into the portal, the sand in the timer, and the fire. If I hadn’t, any preset I could find only seemed odd looking... - Kim: If it’s of any interest to y’all, fun fact, most of the assets and hand-animated sequences were done in Clip Studio Paint. Here’s a peek of how it looks behind the curtain! While I can’t speak for Andrew’s animation process– I think what may be an interesting tidbit for people outside of the animation field, usually in animation there’s a lot of extra bleed room outside of the camera! Some secret little things and details you don’t see in the final animation itself… 👁 + Kim: If it’s of any interest to y’all, fun fact, most of the assets and hand-animated sequences were done in Clip Studio Paint. Here’s a peek of how it looks behind the curtain! While I can’t speak for Andrew’s animation process– I think what may be an interesting tidbit for people outside of the animation field, usually in animation there’s a lot of extra bleed room outside of the camera! Some secret little things and details you don’t see in the final animation itself... 👁 Just kidding, there’s usually nothing exciting in there, (cos it’s always meant to be cut out anyway) but the extra bleed serves as fail-safe in case things need to be adjusted around or resized. Cool to know there’s a little more to it though, right? @@ -2537,13 +2537,13 @@ Commentary: |- - Kim: Call that Movie Magic, babey….!!!! + Kim: Call that Movie Magic, babey....!!!! Kim: This is the only rough animation I still have for this whole sequence LOL. I’m still pretty proud of this shot tbh! The camera working upwards revealing the activating flame, the hourglass clicking into place, the focus shift onto “what will this timer do?” then the PSYCHE! mwah love it. - Also, this entire shot was animated in CSP! When I first started animating in CSP, I always figured the animation function was pretty rudimentary, but when I found out you could do camera movements and sliding assets WITHIN the program….. It was a game changer. + Also, this entire shot was animated in CSP! When I first started animating in CSP, I always figured the animation function was pretty rudimentary, but when I found out you could do camera movements and sliding assets WITHIN the program..... It was a game changer. Making animations for Homestuck really is a dream come true! I’ll be getting back to you guys more on the next animation in the next part of this update, heheh. @@ -2557,7 +2557,7 @@ Featured Tracks: URLs: - https://beyondcanon.com/story/656 Commentary: |- - Miles, James Roach: ([Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/posts/07-2024-writer-109375638), 8/3/2024) + Miles, James Roach: ([Patreon: "07-2024 Writer Commentary"](https://www.patreon.com/posts/07-2024-writer-109375638), 8/3/2024) [[artist:miles|MILES:]] Starting, of course, with ANOTHER [S] PAGE THAT DROPPED AT THE BEGINNING OF JULY!!!!!!! AHHHHHH!!!!!!! This was the final third of what, internally, was referred to as Update 10 (which contains everything from John and Vriska arriving at the meteor to Vriska meeting up with Davepeta in her hive). If we’re being fully honest, we forgot to pop this final third into last month’s Patreon commentary, LOL. So I’ll cover it here. @@ -2569,9 +2569,9 @@ Commentary: |- [[artist:james-roach|JAMES:]] Miles this may please you to know, but everyone was like “wheres equius’s house? - Kim Quach: ([Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/posts/06-2024-artist-107993576), 7/12/2024) + Kim Quach: ([Patreon: "06-2024 Artist Commentary"](https://www.patreon.com/posts/06-2024-artist-107993576), 7/12/2024) - [[artist:kim-quach|Kim:]] AND NOW… It is onto the next flash animation! This one’s actually pretty short since there’s not as many moving parts compared to the last one. Since this one’s a bit more standard, I was able to put together a rough animatic for this one. That way, I can pass the rough animatic down to James, our musician, so he could figure out the audio timing. + [[artist:kim-quach|Kim:]] AND NOW... It is onto the next flash animation! This one’s actually pretty short since there’s not as many moving parts compared to the last one. Since this one’s a bit more standard, I was able to put together a rough animatic for this one. That way, I can pass the rough animatic down to James, our musician, so he could figure out the audio timing. @@ -2591,9 +2591,9 @@ Commentary: |- Kim: After watching the final version of the flash, does looking behind the curtains of it feel like forbidden information to you guys? - Also, what’s particularly interesting about this shot is that we’ve never actually seen the surrounding area around Vriska’s hive depicted before. 🤔 It almost feels cursed seeing it from this view… Something else seems to be missing too, hmmmm…!!! + Also, what’s particularly interesting about this shot is that we’ve never actually seen the surrounding area around Vriska’s hive depicted before. 🤔 It almost feels cursed seeing it from this view... Something else seems to be missing too, hmmmm...!!! - Bonus: If you stayed and watched ‘til the end of the flash…….. I applaud you. That’s it. LOL + Bonus: If you stayed and watched ‘til the end of the flash........ I applaud you. That’s it. LOL Last but not least, HUGE props and thanks to our technical staff, Kohi, for helping composite and put together these multimedia panels on the website. These animated sound pages wouldn’t be possible without Kohi’s help and expertise! --- @@ -2616,7 +2616,7 @@ Featured Tracks: URLs: - https://beyondcanon.com/story/666 Commentary: |- - Miles, floralmarsupial, James Roach: ([Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/posts/07-2024-writer-109375638), 8/3/2024) + Miles, floralmarsupial, James Roach: ([Patreon: "07-2024 Writer Commentary"](https://www.patreon.com/posts/07-2024-writer-109375638), 8/3/2024) [[artist:miles|MILES:]] To Hell indeed. Welcome, O sinner, to Helltier. I feel like we’ve said welcome to hell a billion million squillion times in this document. Anyway, from here on out we’re getting into the VN section! HOLY fuck is it cool to see this actually real. @@ -2712,7 +2712,7 @@ Commentary: |- - FLORAL: If there is a way for me to tie in aspects…. by god I’ll do it. Especially if it means highlighting my favorite part of the Time aspect, it’s theme’s surrounding death and decay. It’s a perfect contrast to Light, in a lot of ways. Light empowers it’s players, makes them believe they have the tools to control outcomes. But Time… that’s untouchable. It’s a constraint more than anything, an oppressive force, just like irl. The outcome is the same for everyone, and there’s no stopping that. It’s set. + FLORAL: If there is a way for me to tie in aspects.... by god I’ll do it. Especially if it means highlighting my favorite part of the Time aspect, it’s theme’s surrounding death and decay. It’s a perfect contrast to Light, in a lot of ways. Light empowers it’s players, makes them believe they have the tools to control outcomes. But Time... that’s untouchable. It’s a constraint more than anything, an oppressive force, just like irl. The outcome is the same for everyone, and there’s no stopping that. It’s set. @@ -2720,7 +2720,7 @@ Commentary: |- I think one of the most important things when growing up is realizing it’s not some unbearable burden to be unliked by some people. It’s not proof you’re undeserving of people in your life or even that singular person hating you, it’s just a boundary. - Thankfully… the boundary respecter is in the building now. + Thankfully... the boundary respecter is in the building now. JAMES: This really is such an important lesson to learn in your own life, you know? There are always gonna be people that don’t hate you but they just aren’t that interested in you in a meaningful way. You just gotta be ok with it. @@ -2730,9 +2730,9 @@ Commentary: |- JAMES: well thats all folks thanks for comin - Kim Quach, James Roach, Andi R., Haven Daniels-Taylor, Chumi, floralmarsupial: ([Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/posts/07-2024-artist-109375739), 8/3/2024) + Kim Quach, James Roach, Andi R., Haven Daniels-Taylor, Chumi, floralmarsupial: ([Patreon: "07-2024 Artist Commentary"](https://www.patreon.com/posts/07-2024-artist-109375739), 8/3/2024) - [[artist:kim-quach|Kim]], is running out of bits: IT IS TIME… THE HOMESTUCK VISUAL NOVEL!!! + [[artist:kim-quach|Kim]], is running out of bits: IT IS TIME... THE HOMESTUCK VISUAL NOVEL!!! [[artist:james-roach|James]], Director: The first one ever. @@ -2766,7 +2766,7 @@ Commentary: |- Floral: Going into it, I wanted his talksprite to capture a small part of the Alterniabound sprite charm while falling in line with our style sensibilities. I put some brain power into it, and the baby head with far apart eyes ended up being key to the whole thing. - Andi: AHHHH these Tavros’ WERE SOOOO ADORABLE. They completely captured his vibes.I think Floral absolutely nailed the alterniabound essence. Thank you for bringing him back to us… + Andi: AHHHH these Tavros’ WERE SOOOO ADORABLE. They completely captured his vibes.I think Floral absolutely nailed the alterniabound essence. Thank you for bringing him back to us... Chumi: TAVROS IS SO CUTE I am obsessed. @@ -2794,7 +2794,7 @@ Commentary: |- James: I didn’t ask you to make her smile, you did that on your own and it worked out great. - Kim: The smile is actually such a funny and interesting addition to this because at this point of time you can see how self-assured she is about this Whole Deal when she couldn’t be more far off LOL. It’s like Aradiabot said… you’re not here for “redemption,” Vriska, you’re here to grow up!!! + Kim: The smile is actually such a funny and interesting addition to this because at this point of time you can see how self-assured she is about this Whole Deal when she couldn’t be more far off LOL. It’s like Aradiabot said... you’re not here for “redemption,” Vriska, you’re here to grow up!!! Andi: think making her smile triumphantly is the right move. When she does things her way, of course it's going to feel right to her. But in this case, she literally made things last ten times longer than it needed to be. She’s going to have to learn her lessons for as long as it takes. @@ -2804,7 +2804,7 @@ Commentary: |- Year 2 Vriska Concept Art by Kim Quach - Kim: It’s now been two years since Vriska has been tromping around this hell space… We wanted to show she’s kind of gotten a little “comfortable” being stuck around here. Or rather, just kind of given into the fact this wasn’t gonna be an easy in-and-out situation as she thought it was going to be and has probably gotten tired of wearing her god tier garb. She’s got her hair tied up, jacket tied around her waist– yeah, she’s gonna be here a long time. + Kim: It’s now been two years since Vriska has been tromping around this hell space... We wanted to show she’s kind of gotten a little “comfortable” being stuck around here. Or rather, just kind of given into the fact this wasn’t gonna be an easy in-and-out situation as she thought it was going to be and has probably gotten tired of wearing her god tier garb. She’s got her hair tied up, jacket tied around her waist– yeah, she’s gonna be here a long time. @@ -2812,7 +2812,7 @@ Commentary: |- I also wanna take a moment to highlight my favorite sprite I did for this chapter– Vriska’s “Mind Control” sprite! - Chumi: The second and third sprites are so expressive and funny… Girl you are stuck in hell!!!! + Chumi: The second and third sprites are so expressive and funny... Girl you are stuck in hell!!!! @@ -2853,7 +2853,7 @@ Commentary: |- Andi: Funnily enough, this staging actually wasn’t intentional when I first drew it in the sketch phase. It was a coincidence that it was so reminiscent of this scene. But still, I think sometimes we artists have a visual library we can pull from and I think I was subconsciously remembering this as I was drawing it. I fully leaned into it once the drawing was almost finished. I think it’s a very poetic visual. These are Vriska’s core memories and I think reliving them the way she has to is very important. - Kim: I’m honestly so glad you leaned into the visual callback of it… Taking this moment that was once (of many) a brutal moment of Vriska’s life, but this time it is now a moment of kindness… an extending open hand instead of a tightened fist. IT’S POETIC!! IT’S BEAUTIFUL!!! + Kim: I’m honestly so glad you leaned into the visual callback of it... Taking this moment that was once (of many) a brutal moment of Vriska’s life, but this time it is now a moment of kindness... an extending open hand instead of a tightened fist. IT’S POETIC!! IT’S BEAUTIFUL!!! @@ -2867,7 +2867,7 @@ Commentary: |- Andi: Floral coordinated this scene for this in text and I followed through with this. This also re-uses some parts of previous old HS1 panels. I wanted to emphasize the weight of this scene and how extremely sentimental and emotional this situation is for her by having Tavros and Aradia lie her down gently on the slab that was probably the most physically traumatic place to bleed to death in the past. A bit of grace while Vriska truly understands her actions. Just a phenomenal moving scene, written by Floral. - Kim: I love the gentleness of this scene… Every time I look at these CGs and especially seeing it all together in the game itself makes me tear up every time. This is such a subtle acting detail but the way Aradia even gently helps Vriska lay her head down… something as small as Aradia not wanting Vriska to hurt her head on the rock flooring because she CARES!!! AUGH!!!! + Kim: I love the gentleness of this scene... Every time I look at these CGs and especially seeing it all together in the game itself makes me tear up every time. This is such a subtle acting detail but the way Aradia even gently helps Vriska lay her head down... something as small as Aradia not wanting Vriska to hurt her head on the rock flooring because she CARES!!! AUGH!!!! Floral: Andi once again absolutely delivered with these CGs and completely sold the scene from the gentle warmth coming off the rocks and all the facial expressions and EVERYTHING. @@ -2883,22 +2883,1421 @@ Commentary: |- Floral: What other titles can we expect to come? What is going on with this candle? How many of these damn things are we gonna see??? - Andi: And now….. DAVEPETA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! + Andi: And now..... DAVEPETA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Chumi: Davepeta… We are winning!!! + Chumi: Davepeta... We are winning!!! Andi: I remember when we were beginning assignments for the sprites, I immediately volunteered to do Davepeta. They’re one of my favorite sprites and I was very grateful they let me. Floral: Makes me go uuuwaaaaaaa at the roleplaying and cutesy ones in particular. - Kim: We couldn’t have asked a better person to do the Davepeta sprites… literally SO cute. Big fan of the >3< sprite. Nya nya… Maybe Homestuck can afford to be a little moe. + Kim: We couldn’t have asked a better person to do the Davepeta sprites... literally SO cute. Big fan of the >3< sprite. Nya nya... Maybe Homestuck can afford to be a little moe. Andi: It was really fun to try to capture their mannerisms as stoicism isn’t the only defining trait here anymore! (Considering most people see Davepeta as Davesprite with a sprinkle of Nepeta.) But no! Nepeta is just as much in the front as Davesprite is! I wanted to show more of Nepetas' quirks here, her cute expressions and charms. Especially her role playing habits seeping through unapologetically. Also, man, I was worried about how Davepetas wings would manage to fit in the scene but I think it's okay if they're a little obscured. Most people went ahead and ripped them and saw it all anyway. Thanks for enjoying the sprites guys! It did make me happy to see our hard work paid off!! You may see a few new unique sprites or two coming soon. Look out for it :3 --- +Flash: '[S] 8r8k.' +Directory: hsbc-716 +Date: February 16, 2025 +URLs: +- https://beyondcanon.com/story/716 +Featured Tracks: +- Aggrievocation +Commentary: |- + Chumi, James Roach, isaac joey, ozmodai, HONE, Sollay, Miles: ([Patreon: "02-2025 [S] 8r8k Flash Commentary"](https://www.patreon.com/homestuck/posts/02-2025-s-8r8k-123286519), 3/1/2025) + + [[artist:chumi|Chumi]], [S]: Make the audience 8r8k 100 more times: Hello and welcome to the commentary! It’s been a few months hasn’t it? Well get ready, cause we have a few months worth of work to talk about as we dissect the flash! Because there is just so much to talk about, flash commentary will be split over two months. Additionally, we’ll be combining the artist and writer commentary for the flash into one Mega Commentary. It was brought up that it makes more sense to talk about story beats when readers can see the shots at the same time. + + Not only do we have our writers here, but we have some guest artists as well! Please feel free to introduce yourselves! + + [[artist:james-roach|James]], Director: Hello, I’ll be adding some story commentary where applicable. + + [[artist:isaac-joey|Isaac]], excited to be here: :D !!! I was invited to help with several assets for the flash, and I could not be more excited to be here!!! + + [[artist:ozmodai|Ozzy:]] Hi, hello! I usually am preoccupied with fantrolls more often than not, but it was an honor getting to help with the art on such a meaty (or sweet for Candy?) flash! + + [[artist:hone|Hone:]] HONE(ほね)です。よろしくお願いします！ + + [[artist:spicyyeti|Spicyyeti:]] hi ← compositor + + [[artist:sollay|Soleil:]] Hello! I was here to deliver some “ancestors” and I couldn’t have been more excited! + + [[artist:andi-r|Andi]], still cursed and hexxed: HI! It’s been a pleasure to work with ya’ll and I’m happy to have contributed to this crazy, ambitious flash! + + [[artist:haven-daniels-taylor|Haven:]] WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! It’s finally done!!!!! + + [[artist:kim-quach|Kim]], Art Director (normal mode): And what an absolute powerhouse team of people, honestly. As the Art Director, let me just say it was such an absolute joy to get to collab with more awesome and talented artists from this fandom for this flash, and–of course–not to mention the fact everyone did such an amazing job as well! I feel like I always say that every time we drop a commentary, but I can’t help it when it’s just true....!! + + Each artist had a pretty even and sizeable share of parts too, so I think everyone really got a chance to shine. 👁 We’ll get to see a little insight on who did what in this commentary here too, heheh. + + Also, BIIIIG shoutout to Floral for boarding this entire flash. When we saw the first animatic of it, we were all immediately blown away.... Floral just Understands The Assignment. It’s a pretty dense flash with a fast-paced song too, but I think we were able to reach a pretty decent medium with it! + + [Let’s take a look at the rough animatic shall we?](https://www.patreon.com/homestuck/posts/s-8r8k-rough-123014140) + + Kim: Honestly, even in its rough stage it’s still a pretty enjoyable watch. LOL + + [[artist:floralmarsupial|Floral:]] Aw thanks Kim! I learned a lot during the process of this animatic, including learning After Effects and Animate. Essentially this process went from an ideas stage that all the writers and team was a part of, then we picked the song before I touched thumbing. + + We played with a couple different ideas but in the end we went with the [[Aggrievocation]] since it had a pretty constant, rapid beat that helped sell the overwhelming chaos of the battlefield. Starting out, I was asked to make sure this flash didn’t reach over 2 minutes which...with all these ideas did NOT happen. But I’m very grateful to the team for sticking through with this longer flash, for a war that didn’t get much spotlight I think we gave it a nice farewell. True to war, everything happens at once and hits like a brick fucking wall. + + These flashes from here on out can only get better as we perfect the pipeline, and I’ve been making notes on how to tweak and evolve my boarding skills. I have a great respect for this style of limited animation and I’m so excited for everything that’s coming next!! + + Sollay: I loved the animatic, I immediately knew it was going to turn out great. Exciting! + + Kim: Before we went into the actual production phase, I wanted to show off the color key we prepared for this flash. I mentioned it in a previous artist’s commentary, but it is *very* important *when* the events of this flash and the next following updates (!!!) will occur. + + Here’s part one of the color keys that will be relevant for this commentary! + +
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+ + Chumi: The very first shot... Like in so many other flashes, we get a closeup on a character’s eye. Frankly I didn’t notice the swirl of the iris around the pupil until I was staring right at the picture. + + Kim: I don’t think John ever got one of these iconic eye super close-ups in the base comic either, so this one’s actually a first for him! We had to do a bit of movie magic peeling one of the Striders’ pupils close-up from a previous flash and utilizing [other funny eye close-up panels](https://www.homestuck.com/007233) for John’s eye color. I’m a huge stickler for consistency LMAO. + +
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+ + Kim: If you’re a Beyond Canon super fan and have been keeping up with our Patreon’s exclusive flash previews, you may have noticed this particular shot changed a bit during the production process LOL. If you haven’t........ I’m a liar actually, it has always been the same. :) + + JOKES ASIDE, in actuality we realized during compositing when the original panel was much smaller with the characters more color treated to the environment, that the colors seemed a little disjointed... 🤔 + + Andi: Sometimes we underestimate what is actually all going to be visible... so it goes.. + + James: Not seeing enough people talk about John’s hood being an infinity symbol. Vriska has already begun influencing the story around her in subtle ways. How many can you notice? + + Kim: It’s funny because I’m pretty sure I did that on accident simply because I just liked how the flow framed the composition. Vriska subconsciously getting into my brain... AAAHH AUUUGHHH GET OUT...!! + +
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+ + Ozzy: I've watched [[flash:2578|[S] Make her pay]] like a thousand times over the years, so it was great getting to recreate a homage to a really familiar shot. I worked off directly from staring at that part frame for frame on Youtube, but shaping Terezi's sneaks to Kanaya new boot goofin' was fun. + + Andi: This was crazy good! It felt nice to see some frame by frame animations like some of the old flashes having them sprinkled in. + +
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+ + Isaac: AHH the big battlefield in all its glory!!! The tiny Tavvy on the wing is my favorite part :D + + Kim: Everyone so small... They are like bugs.... + + We’ve sprinkled them throughout the past few updates, but what finally gets a big feature in this flash are the funny crab tanks that the troll rebellion utilizes. + +
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+ + Kim: What I thought was endearing was how the rebellion persisted to keep up their troll culture, their funky bug technology! In some of the earlier updates, you can even see how others were still utilizing troll-esque bug technology even on Earth C. We were thinking maybe the tanks should be a bit more bug-esque, but I think having it a *bit* more evolved into crab tanks felt more thematically relevant; Meenah’s aquatic themes and Karkat’s crab. + + I’m a big fan of what I’ve been calling the KING KRAB tank. It’s supposed to be the BIG tank the generals, Meenah and Karkat, pilot around during the war. Of course, with a lil’ touch of Karkat’s iconic HOMES SMELL YA LATER. There’s something endearing to think about that he’s still found of this funny little sickle he had ever since he was 6 sweeps (13 years) old. + + Chumi: I mentioned in a [previous commentary](https://www.patreon.com/homestuck/posts/06-2024-artist-107993576) that the initial draft of the crab tanks was just a regular ass tank with bug legs attached to it LMAOO. It was very shitty and I’m so happy we had time to sit down and make these look epic. + +
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+ + Chumi: Sollux is STILL waiting for his fucking food. Since this shot extends a previously seen panel, we get to see a bit of his boxers and sagging pants. He doesn’t care there is a war happening and you know what, maybe he earned it after dying so many times in Homestuck proper. His phone was generously provided by Roxy, as most of his possessions are. + + Kim: I like that the app also has the delivery guy’s face for the UI. Are they the only employee on that app. + +
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+ + Kim: My favorite subplot of this flash. This fucken guy trying to get Sollux’s takeout order for him. Their name is Gubhub Delvry. I think. We said a lot of stupid names as a joke LOL. I don’t even know if Earth C has GrubHub. They could literally be delivering for DoorDash for all I know. + + Chumi: It’s so funny to think that they were born to be a delivery driver. Their name is delivery app delivery driver. Their horns are a fork and spoon. This is their destiny. + + James: We ended up calling it GruberEats. We thought about calling it Grubhub but that seemed too on the nose. I like the running gag of background trolls just named what they do. Like Swifer Eggmop, or the Hotdog Jugglr from Friendsim. + + Hone: ああ、彼は私のお気に入りのトロールの一人なんだ… (Ah, They’re one of my favorite trolls...) + + [[artist:miles|Miles]], late and pretending he’s been here the whole time: Poor Gubhub went through hell only to be upstaged by the two goons below. Well, one of them is a goon. The other is a valued member of a glorious revolution. + + Sollay: Goodnight Gubhub, it’s been short and intense... + +
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+ + Isaac: I learned how to animate in Clip Studio Paint for this! We referenced the iconic Condy walk from [[flash:4572|[S] Prince of Heart: Rise Up]], but modified it for Meenah’s current silhouette. It was an honor :p + + Andi: You did great! I was really impressed with how much you captured the same vibe. I also thought it was genius that Floral included her sashay in the animatic. + + Miles: Sexy seadweller sway is a time-honored tradition. + +
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+ + Hone: Isaacと同じでこのシーンは [[flash:4572|[S] Prince of Heart: Rise Up]]を参考にしました。このカットではアングルを工夫して描きました。(Yeah! These scenes are referenced from “[S] Prince of Heart: Rise up”, I drew a cool angle for this shot.) + + Chumi: It looks quite epic! + + Kim: When Hone posted her WIP of this shot, I’m pretty sure the team was all on a call and we all simultaneously YELLED in joy at how good it looked!!! I can always trust Hone with these amazing action shots! + + Sollay: Sooo good!! + +
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+ + Floral: I went through so many different timing variations with this gif, which we had to change anyways to fit the videos timing but I loved drawing these poses and in general loved this trade off of powers. + + Andi: Their horrified faces are really what gets me about this. + +
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+ + Kim: The trolls standing together in solidarity!! Somehow I always manage to convince myself that crowd shots wouldn’t be that bad to do. I am a liar. Drawing each individual troll kicked my ass more than it needed to... + + If you are guessing there are easter eggs fantroll cameos in here... You would be correct LOL. BUT ☝ only a handful, mosts of them are randos. My trollsona shows up again too, can you find them? 🕵️‍♂️ + + Ozzy: I love putting fantrolls in the War. + + Chumi: My sona is in the War. + + James: Though Karkat’s rebel soldiers are mostly Trolls there are actually many Humans, Carapacians and the occasional Consort amongst the ranks as well. Though, consorts have a tendency to keep to themselves. Jane’s soldiers are entirely cloned, because in her deep paranoia she felt those were the only people she could truly trust. And she doesn’t even trust them. + + Andi: The LOBsTERs are definitely a diverse group to represent that! I wonder how they fared during all this. + + Miles: They’re the best of the best... surely nothing happened to them... + + + +
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+ + Chumi: THE ANCESTOR-STYLE SHOTS!! HS:BC HAS ITS OWN ANCESTOR-STYLE SHOTS!!! I was so excited to see this come to fruition because Sollay did an EXQUISITE job with these paintings! + + Kim: LITERALLY SOOO BEAUTIFUL!!! It was Floral’s proposal to get Sollay onboard for these painted shots, and, honestly, we could not have asked for a better artist. They got their ominous yet epicness JUST perfectly. + + Sollay: Thank you guys!! I had so much fun making these. I wanted to capture the feeling of the Homestuck ancestors, but not quiiite the exact same thing? Unlike the Homestuck ancestors, we’ve been familiar with these characters for a very long time. So it’s less about making them feel ancient and mysterious, and more about looking cool while killing people. So proud of them. + +
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+ + Chumi: Meanwhile, Vriska is losing her shit while (Vriska) watches and waits. This hug is her hardest task yet, apparently. Davepeta is losing their shit watching Vriska losing her shit! I think I made Davepeta look absolutely crazy, but if it took several years for someone to hug another person, I’d be losing it as well. + + Miles: If we as fans can spend 15 years dealing with the ramifications of Vriska in her messy entirety then surely Davepeta can handle half that time! + +
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+ + Chumi: Here’s a first draft of the shot! The Vriskas are much closer to the camera here, but the final version definitely looks better! + + Kim: We needed to pull the camera back so we can get the full effect of her frustratedly slamming her fist on the ground... Methinks she’s goin thru it, fellas. + +
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Missile asset by [[artist:kim-quach]]
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+ + Kim: Here you can see it more clearly... LOL. Even when you’re sending people to their doom you gotta keep up the branding, I guess. + +
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+ + Kim: Our rascally beloved child..... This shot ended up being a lot faster in the animation itself than what you see here, actually LOL. I think we also ended up taking out the background for this one because so many visually interesting things were happening in such quick succession, the detailed shots were becoming kinda jarring KLAJSDA. We’re too good at what we do.... + + Isaac: I love her so much. + + Sollay: Look at her. She wants the world to burn. Isn’t she precious? + +
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+ + James: This shot is really funny to me because the face moves independently of the head + + Kim: In classic Homestuck fashion... + + Of course, I had to draw the shots of my fave omega kid (no bias). My particular favorite part of this very brief animation is her subtle ear bounce... Yiffy’s staredown with Kanaya is pretty funny cos I’m pretty sure this is now her first actual (on screen?) interaction with Kanaya. She has no reason to even feel short with her, but I think Yiffy just hates all forms of authority in general LOL. + +
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+ + Kim: I’m pretty happy with how these Kanaya assets turned out! She’s one of my most favorite of the characters to draw for Beyond Canon at this point, honestly. There’s something so fun and interesting about drawing the OG cast in this kind of ominous guardian style where they look a little stylistically inhuman and kinda scary. + +
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Scrapped art by [[artist:kim-quach]]
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+ + Hone: Flashで再びJadeを描いたのは [[flash:8087|[S] Collide.]] 以来９年ぶり…時間が経つのが早すぎる… (It's been 9 years since i drew Jade again in flash since [S] Collide... Time flies too fast...) + + James: Yeah! HONE also drew one of my favorite shots in Collide, where Roxy backstabs the Condesce. + + Chumi: Thank you for your contributions once again!! + +
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+ + Haven: I did these sprites as well! I asked everyone what would be funny to put on the back of the captcha card and no one replied! So I just put random letters and numbers that don’t mean anything at all! Also Hella Jeff. + + James: I didn’t notice this joke until it was too late. + + Miles: Thank god. + + Isaac: Every time I think about this I smile. + + Ozzy: The barely discernible Hella Jeff is really the cherry on top. + + Andi: God damn. + + Floral: Haven sold this concept to hell and back, he’s so ..discerning. + +
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+ + Ozzy: I provided Karkat’s beef bod for the final! It went through a few face tests and this was the original expression, but I was too restrained in injecting silliness in Guardian Style. Floral helped bring it back big time! + + Spicyyeti: i was rude as fuck and lobbied hard to keep pushing this drawing until it was as funny as possible. i was even bossing floral around AS they were drawing the revisions like “NO, DRAW THE EYEBROWS UPSIDE DOWN” HGKJA + + Floral: It was wild drawing the original thumbnail for it and then not knowing how to make it that level of crazy again. + + Ozzy: It was a good call! He looked effectively traumatized in the end. + + Kim: The original sketches of his face ARE so cutes though. 🥺 We will preserve them here for you all to enjoy... + + Andi: A lot of people loved this scene. I remember when Floral first showed us this part in the animatic, we all just fucking died at it, it was the funniest thing. Oh, Karkat. + +
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+ + Haven: More sprites! It was such an honor to be able to animate Meenah getting the ick and also some lovely davekat cheesecake. + + Miles: Onscreen Davekat Relations... who could ask for anything more? Might as well stop the flash right here. + + Sollay: What would it feel like to have your taxidermied non-ex come out of a card and assault you in the heat of battle? Like peak romance is how. + +
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+ + Chumi: Yiffy’s silhouette directly references [[flash:246|[S] John: Take bite of apple.]] I wanted the clouds to have the same swirling effect as the flash, it really directs the watcher’s attention to the missile. The team has had several conversations about how much we like how Andrew draws clouds. + +
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+ + Chumi: The bean mode... It’s so cute!!! + + Ozzy: In the initial sketch, Yiffy looked much less impressed with Tavvy's heroics LOL. He also had arms, but everyone agreed that the armless version in the final won out in charm. + + Kim: This is a moment of Tavvy getting to prove himself; not just to the audience, but Yiffy as well! It takes a LOT to gain Yiffy’s respect. Aside from the overall goofiness of him ADVANCED YOUTH ROLLING into action, you have to consider the bravery and risk Tavvy had to pull just to protect Yiffy from got dang incoming missile! This for sure was going to leave a good impression on her. + + Sollay: Tavvy was sooo crazy for this. She better be impressed. + + Miles: My turn to have an Omega agenda... there’s a sort of cartoonish physicality to this bit but you have to imagine that if one of the Omega kids was going to be the one capable of missile kickage it’d be the one raised by a tiger mom and a guy whose genetic love language is swashbuckling and shooting shit. Get your seat reserved on the Tavvy train, people... there’s still time. + + Floral: They turned out so perfect! When I boarded this part I punched the air and the final assets conveyed the idea so clearly. + + Kim: When this part came up I told the team it reminded me of when was I watching a Shadow the Hedgehog OVA and there was a part where Shadow was getting shot at with a fucking missile but he just literally grabbed it and threw it back. I was so shocked like, “WHAT. HE SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. ... Actually y’know what, he’s Shadow he can do whatever the fuck he wants.” And just like Tavvy. He has the power. + + James: I also mentioned the first Hulk Movie, but nobody watched that one. + +
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+ + Chumi: Unfortunately, Gubhub meets their end by Tavvy’s hands (indirectly). Of course he didn’t mean it, but this is nonetheless Tavvy’s first kill of the series. + + Kim: LMAO TAVVY NOOOOO. His kill count.... Officially one (1). + +
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+ + Chumi: I mentioned before that the team really likes how Andrew draws clouds, and I gotta say the same about his explosions. Both things required a bit of [studying](https://www.homestuck.com/004167) [panels](https://www.homestuck.com/005086) to get right. + + Andi: That’s one of the things you do very well, Chumi! I like your FX a lot. Definitely captures the Homestuck flavor. + +
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+ + Kim: Floral fought for her life that she really wanted to have this shot of Sollux jumping towards his pizza done by Fruitegg. It *Needed* to be Fruitegg. And, by god, we were blessed that they took our offer to do this asset. His gummy mouth cos he has no damn teeth right now fucking gets me AKLSDJALM + + Chumi: He’s so fucking detailed its crazy. + + Sollay: I keep forgetting he doesn’t have teeth. This absolutely killed me. + +
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+ + Isaac: This is one of the many versions of Jake’s powerup that we tried! It was real science to get the feeling just right and I think the final version nailed it :p + + James: This scene is another example of some of the creative things we can do with class and aspect. Hope is “the destructive force of light, a violent vehicle of positive change and the ability to make the unreal real” while a Page is one who fights to preserve their aspect. Could this have had an effect on the way things unfolded? Who can really say. + +
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+ + Isaac: I think this shot is really neat :] It references John’s godtiering in [[flash:3087|[S] JOHN. RISE UP]] with the way she gets reanimated after death, but this time it’s the fraction of a second after she’s shot. She hasn’t even hit the floor yet and she’s back! So cool. + + Kim: If there’s one thing I’ve always admired about Isaac’s art, it’s the excellent silhouette and shape designs in his art...!! I knew you would do a perfect job with this asset! Animating this was the next tricky step... + +
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+ + Kim: JADE EPIC MOMENT!!!!! + + Ozzy: HARLEY AURA FARMING... I drew the second render as a quick alternate for a more intimidating vibe, but the first arm angle worked best for the composition overall. I think it’s cool to try options out and see the results in front of you, regardless! + + Chumi: SHE LOOKS SOOOO GOOD!!! + + Isaac: SHE IS SO COOL!!! RAHHH!!! + + Sollay: I LOVE HER SO MUCH... I’m glad you get to post the alt version somewhere, because she looks even cooler there. + + James: In the background (unpictured) of this scene, we see Jade enlarging the heads of the soldiers to the point where it becomes so heavy it snaps their necks. Space is a very straightforward aspect, dealing with the literal size, location and scale of things. This can be interpreted in a lot of ways, both mechanically and narratively but in terms of combat we wanted to think of some of the horrifying things you could do with that. It was important we showed what happens when you push what are effectively gods into a corner. These are figures of LORE on Earth-C that just showed up one day and are living in apartments in the city. For example, imagine if Athena turned out to be real and was just living in New York, then one day a civil war broke out and she picked a side. And so did like, Odin and Anubis who also turned out to be real and as a normal guy you just had to watch them duke it out. + + There needed to be a reason it never came to this before now. Jade could just make someone explode by growing their Skeleton and nothing else, or she could teleport them into the sun, no-clip them halfway into each other or just compress and condense them into a tiny cube. Imagine you watched that happen, and then a blue aura surrounded them and they were back to normal, minus the thousand yard stare that came with the memories of that happening to them. We conveyed it in a funny way with the bobble-heads but everything that is happening here is terrifying. + +
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+ + Floral: It took me forever to get this effects right. Andrew really knew what they were doing with this. + + Chumi: This is so epic btw. The silhouette really sells how inhuman the gods are starting to look once they exercise their powers. I love how Homestuck uses silhouettes really often... + + Kim: Floral amped this up by like 9000x than I could have ever originally imagined... When we were first discussing the art direction for this part, we were initially imagining something a LOT simpler, but Floral proposed what if we brought back THIS visual back when god tiers revive: + +
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[Page 3853](https://homestuck.com/005753) from Homestuck
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Art by [[artist:isaac-joey]]
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+ + Isaac: I started a little too detailed, so it got a little scaled back to help emphasize the intensity of Jake’s hopesplosion! + + Andi: Yes, I remember earlier in the discussions we wanted the hope powers to be BLINDING! It should feel like a nuclear explosion. I like how it was achieved here! + +
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+ + Chumi: Them... It is so great to see the fandom give these guys names and start shipping them. Love truly blooms on the battlefield. + + Ozzy: It felt like I was able to do a shot for the beginning, middle and end of their trauma bonding so they were probably my favorite part of helping out. Can’t deny that I got a little attached LOL. This was the fastest one I completed just because I was excited to draw them clinging to each other. + + Miles: This shot really speaks to James’ earlier point about how horrifying a war between gods can get. I’d scream and clutch the nearest warm body too. + +
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+ + Haven: It’s Mech Noir, whoa! A Bec Noir inspired Imperial-Drone-esque mecha suit piloted by the original Jack Noir. (Technically? Not in terms of appearance order but in terms of um, universal appearance order? Is that anything? It’s the Jack that kills the B1 Universe.) + +
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+ + Andi: I got to draw the shrimper for a scene earlier on! Bro got blasted to smithereens. + + Chumi: Again, we love the bug-esque weaponry going on here. + +
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+ + Haven: Uh-oh spoilers! But yes, I made myself a Hell-Tier-Sona too. + +
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+ + Chumi: I really really enjoyed the scribble-mode panels! I just love how quintessentially silly Homestuck they are. This was my first version of the 8onk panel, but team members really wanted to push the blind rage in Vriska’s expression. Also, we added cookie crumbs around her mouth cause we thought it’d be funny!!! + +
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+ + Chumi: She is so full of cookies... We wanted to make her look disoriented with Nanna’s prodding movements included in the compositing process! + +
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+ + Chumi: It took a lil bit of tweaking to get (Vriska)’s wiggles to look right! One nifty program I used a lot (and have been using a lot while making HS:BC) is the Animator’s Gif Enjoyer Deluxe on Itch.io. It splices gifs into their individual frames, which has been a godsend for studying previous panels and how to make them Homestuck perfect. I am eternally grateful! + +
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+ + Isaac: More Jake!!! His hope powers are really fun to draw. A fun fact about this shot was drawing this over the holidays and having my mom (from behind me) declare his resemblance to Bigfoot found footage. I can’t unsee it. + + James: If it is unclear what Jake is doing here, he is coating the meteor in Hope. Before Jake had always used his Hope powers in a distinctly passive, almost accidental and reactionary way. While that is still somewhat the case here, he is showing much more control and purpose in his application of them. His powers have fully matured, allowing him to be more direct in his usage of the aspect. + + Kim: What really grips my heart about this is that it’s right after Jake sees the most important thing in his life right now (his family!!!) at the risk of death, this was the moment he had to–NEEDED to– really step it up if he wanted to save and help everyone. + +
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+ + Haven: (That’s me pierced on his blade.) + + Chumi: Haven did not survive The War... + +
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+ + Andi: A long time ago, when I was working on the Meenah and Karkat update, I wanted to include a flag somewhere but I was short on time for actually putting it in. I think we also wanted to save it for another instance on the battlefield. I’m glad we did! We did some drafts and it was suggested to be the Mothergrub’s skull. Which I think was really good, because Kanaya’s duty to save her species is a really important part of her story, as well as Karkat being just as passionate towards justice against Crocker Corp. Their duo symbols really signify their importance during the war. + +
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+ + Isaac: The meatier... I mean, woah... the meteor.... + + Kim: I’m so glad you included the angels flying off of them too. When we went to check back in the original comic to reference Jake’s hopesplosion, it was kind of insane how he could just summon these scary ass angels too. + + Andi: Honestly, hope powers are kind of scary. We’ve seen how it can get. + +
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+ + Ozzy: I’m happy these are the first Harry and Vrissy I’ve drawn ever. + + James: This shot is funny because Harry and Vrissy got out of the ship to prove something or whatever and then the second shit starts going down, they get back inside. You could argue that Rose puts them back inside, but it's funnier to me personally that they got scared and retreated after Vrissy’s big speech about how she’s competent. + + Kim: I’m pretty sure the original intention was that Rose put them back in, but it’s funnier to me to think in retrospect they walked outside, saw their auntie Jade get shot in the head, got shit scared, and went back in. ALKSDJKALS + + Chumi: These kids are NOT ready for the horrors of war. + + Miles: When Tavvy’s passive-aggressive letter was in fact completely justified... Tavvy #Vindicated #IAmSelfishIAmWrongIAmRightISwearImRightSwearIKnewItAllAlong + +
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Art by [[artist:floralmarsupial]]
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+ + Hone: 二人の兵士が狂った世界で手を取り合おうとしている…(they're trying to hold hands in a world gone mad...) + + Ozzy: I hope I can go as peacefully as the olive still three-mouthing their way into the afterlife. + +
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+ + Chumi: Sollux mourns his pizza, rather than the death of poor Gubhub. His fucking shoes are still steaming!! I made sure to draw the pizza laying sauce-down so it would be truly unsalvageable. + + Miles: War truly is hell. + + Sollay: I love that you can see his underwear. This man lives inside. + +
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+ + Ozzy: The end of their epic love story... I wish them a long and happy life together. + + Chumi: Maybe we’ll get to see them again... Who knows! + + Isaac: Life is so beautiful.... + + Andi: After seeing the hype about them, I was compelled to make yaoi art. I’ll never be sorry. + +
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+ Kim: And with the beautiful setting sun where love prevails, comes the perfect draw to a close for the first part of [S] 8r8k’s commentary! + + Chumi: Thank you so much for tuning in, and I hope you thought this peek behind the scene was interesting and insightful! We hope that you’ll be back for next month, where we cover the second half of the flash! Peace out buddies! + + + Chumi, Kim Quach, spicyyeti, floralmarsupial, Sollay, isaac joey, ozmodai, HONE, Miles, Haven Daniels-Taylor, fruitegg: ([Patreon: "03-2025 [S] 8r8k Flash Commentary"](https://www.patreon.com/homestuck/posts/03-2025-s-8r8k-125483928), 4/1/2025) + + [[artist:chumi|Chumi]], can’t stop eating green grapes: Hello and welcome to the commentary! Last month we covered the first half of the flash, so let’s get to the second half! The energy built up in the first part of the flash is finally released, and we get some emotional beats as well!! Let’s talk about it! + + [[artist:kim-quach|Kim]], not lactose intolerant: We’ve finally reached the climax! And, personally, where a lot of my favorite shots are because there’s a bunch of delicious heavy hitters in this half, hehe. + + [[artist:spicyyeti|Spicyyeti]], eating spicy popcorn chicken: hello to all. im spicyyeti (carmi), creator of godhead and i was the compositor on this flash.i animated like idk 90% of it or something (floral animated some parts too). ill explain the process near the end of this commentary. + + [[artist:floralmarsupial|Floral]], desires more cheese and salami: hey im the guy that boarded, animated a lil bit and drew Jake’s naked glowing butt. + + [[artist:sollay|Sollay]], italian: Hey I drew one more thing here. It was also a naked Jake. + + [[artist:isaac-joey|Isaac]], probably drinking coffee: hi!!! i did some of the assets >:P :P + + [[artist:ozmodai|Ozzy]], craving takoyaki lately: I also joined in with a couple more shots for this half! It was a bit of a struggle since in the middle of production at this time, my computer busted and I had to buy an entire new one, but we still managed it :] + + [[artist:hone|Hone]], nerdy japanese eating sushi:フラッシュのカットをいくつかお手伝いしました。よろしくお願いします！(I helped on a few shots for the Frash! :3) + + [[artist:miles|Miles]], still full from KBBQ last weekend: I didn’t draw anything!!! I’m just here to run my mouth :) + + [[artist:haven-daniels-taylor|Haven]], in the midst of a lunch crisis: Super excited for this part. We were toiling away in those homestuck mines for these homestuck diamonds. + + Kim: Before we formally begin the second half, another one of our lovely guest artists Anita (or you might recognize as fruitegg) wanted to share their process for their Sollux shot! + + [[artist:fruitegg|Anita]], Sydney Australia, toiling in HS mines since 2011 to buy 1 rock n roll CD, just happy to be here: U know when U frog-boil-customised a character just like over the course of fully over a decade and then read the MSPAwiki to check their design details and just go ❓❗❓ + +
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No eyebrowz no nose - Idk why that started beyond "he's a mutant" but it occurred to me probs should give him some for this occasion so the compromise was to give him bleached eyebrows and a tiny babby idiot nose. split tha difference. and he DOES have the nose and five fingers contrary to the HS Classic 0 Nose+4 Fingers on account of the Joke being that like....this kind of silly moment is rendered with a incongruent level of like care and attention

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Eyes 'n' teeth - you know.....I always thought back on the comet when he got his eyes and teeth blasted (?) out that like the actual eyeballs just like went jellylike and sploded out of his head. but the team kindly confirmed he does indeed have both eyeballs, they're just black....I was today(A couple months ago) years old when I learnt.....and would he have maybe gotten into a little denture by this point? Perhaps. But plain gums with no teeth are so fun, how xould I not

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Horns - Always kind of accidentally by way of incapability and also not paying attention end up drawing them tilted back w the two smaller middle ones set further back than the others and tried not to do that here but still failed LOL drawing HS for 10+ years and still canNOT draw horns at a angle orz....

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tha fit - Sollux the Slovenly Pants Sagging Soldier wears some shitty trackpants with a heelbite and like.....a air max shoe that he's had for 5+ years and the sole is like 1/3 its original thickness and the leather is so soft the shoe no longer has any structure. In the enduring words of DigDat "Had to run a boy down in my Air Force Max/Pissed, cuh now they got a crease in the middle". And he's a tag dag because It Would Be Some Shit Like That

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got tha sketch and went from there overall if I had my time again I think I'd probs not go for like quite such a wacky dramatic perspective but OH WELL to fight an adage with an adage if yur shot hit the tree it missed the deer BUT you miss 100% of the shots yoiu don't take....so my conscience is clear-ish. like I said above, I'm just happy to be here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+ + Kim: Anita’s rendering skills are simply unmatched.... I remember when Floral was pitching the boards to me, she persisted that this shot HAD to be done by fruitegg. Ideally, LOL. + + Chumi: One of the craziest shots in the whole flash tbh. I was blown away when I first saw it, the amount of detail is bananas. + + Sollay: I think it’s kind of my favorite. + + Haven: Getting Anita’s art in the flash felt like a dream come true on the same level as even being able to work on Homestuck in the first place. + + Miles: Everything we wrote in the entire comic was actually a lead-up to this, if you can believe it. From here on out, we’re in a little story phase we like to call “falling action”. Real shit though this shot is fantastic, having Anita on Homestuck was one of those things that we knew we wanted essentially as soon as the topic of guest artists was broached. + + Kim: Now that we’re at the second half, you can observe the latter half of the color keys here too! + +
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Color keys by [[artist:kim-quach]] & [[artist:floralmarsupial]]
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Art by [[artist:isaac-joey]]
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+ + Floral: My first attempt at the wings!! I struggled with getting the wing shape just right but rightfully got notes to push it more and turned out so happy with the end result. + + Kim: I really love the end result– you can really feel how EPIC his impression is supposed to be towards the kids right now. Realizing in this moment, at least what Tavvy has probably always thought, his regular ol’ pop IS a LITERAL god right now?? + + Miles: It’s probably SO LOUD there... their poor ears. + +
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+ + Sollay: I wasn’t sure what to do. He’s all white, engulfed in light, radiating light. I thought, what is there to paint? His magnificent ‘staches? I started sweating a little bit. To buy time, I honed out the ‘staches real good. As for the rest, I decided to just turn my brain off to YouTube videos and when I turned it back on, uh, he just kind of looked like this, but freakier. I toned the shadows down, but he still looks as lovingly sculpted as ever. No regrets. + + Ozzy: Such a majestic visage... + + Isaac: He’s oh so beautiful indeed!! + + Kim: Like a Greek sculpture... Also, I’m not gonna lie, every time I rewatch the flash and his face comes up again it immediately gets a chuckle out of me. Everything Is Suddenly So Real. + + Sollay: Maybe a little too real. Personally I’m still a fan of your input!! + + + + Kim: ASKJDLSA I also really like this one as well. + + + + Spicyyeti: his dress to impress eyes + +
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MONSTER by Naoki Urasawa
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+ + Kim: I know for this part, Floral wanted to make it super duper clear that this was an explicit reference to MONSTER, LOL. I don’t blame her though, this scene goes incredibly hard and I think the expression from the original panel really gets the vibe across of how Rose is feeling in this moment too. + + Miles: Rosehan Lieblonde is suuuuuch a great shot, one of many incredible moments Floral managed to squeeze into this incredible 4 minutes. I’ve said too much about Rose’s mindstate in these commentaries so I’m just going to leave it at Damn She Looks Cold As Fuck Right Now. + +
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Art by [[artist:chumi]]
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+ + Chumi: The bullet went through a few iterations because there was some confusion between the casing and the actual bullet and what exactly flies through the air when a sniper rifle is fired... I have very little knowledge about guns if you couldn’t tell. + + Kim: This was kind of a funny scramble in the chat simply because none of us knew what the logistics of a bullet were like because, well, none of us has ever touched a gun in our life LOL. It wasn’t until James clued us in that the bullet would be missing the casing if it was being shot. The more you know... + + Haven: We sat in call just googling guns and bullets for like an hour. + + Floral: This is the scene I was most excited to see animated since we were concepting the flash. I could see it perfectly in my head and Hone did such an amazing job with bringing it to life. Oh Rose...what are you doing man. + +
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+ + Floral: My ugly disgusting horses.... + + Chumi: Don’t say that... I think they’re neat. + + Kim: I also love that we opted for photobashed horses instead of drawing them. We needed the very real horses to be like a laugh break for the audience. + + Miles: \*Wiping tears away\* We were supposed to be laughing? + +
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+ + Kim: Grown ass woman being tormented by a child... LOL + + Jokes aside though, I love how brilliant Floral boarded this. (Vriska)’s request for Vriska to accept (her)self wholly had been tormenting her for YEARS, literally a looming shadow over her... haunting her... I wanted the irony to be palpable that even though Vriska, clearly an adult by now, was posed with what would objectively be such a simple task still made her feel so small in the face of it even beside her younger self. + + Floral: This is one of the scenes I animated and it was a real treat! I’m not as experienced as Carmi but I learned a ton. I love the slowness of this scene and the complete tonal change. You really feel how worn down Vriska is by it all. + +
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+ + Floral: It was early on decided that Terezi was the bridge between these two Vriska’s, and that despite what Vriska put (Vriska) through or her constant rejection, (Vriska) being able to still empathize her other self was a prime example of what Vriska could be. It’s not about loving someone more than you hate yourself but something crazier and more complicated. I love Vriska. + +
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+ + Floral: The first was very true to my board but the emotion comes through so much better with (Vriska) actively blocking her face. + + Ozzy: Kim’s sketch was so easy to work with, he did awesome helping me push the feeling of her bracing for impact. + + Kim: I’m always glad to help my fellow team! >:9 I think the initial board had her posed more so flinching back, but it felt a little mild... Considering all the shit Vriska was doing to (her) all these years, I think (she)’d be rightfully a little more scared. + + Spicyyeti: she was literally shooting at her with a gun + +
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+ + Kim: This scene was the most delicate part of this whole sequence, that I wanted to be sure we nailed the feeling of this one just right. The way I was framing it in my head when I was drawing it, I wanted it to feel like an older sister reconciling with their younger sibling. + + Chumi: A beautiful touching moment!! + + Floral: Finally the end to the Hell Chamber arc! I know a lot of people were surprised with the end of the VN portion but it all culminated to this. In the end we realized there weren’t really any words that could sell this acceptance as much as this action. And resolving actions was what flashes were built for. + +
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Art by [[artist:chumi]] and [[artist:ozmodai]]
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+ + Chumi: A sweet collab between my pal Ozzy and me! The sprites are looking quite pleased that Vriska has finally accomplished the hug (except Erisol, I assume he does not give a fuck!!!). + + Ozzy: Thank you so much for your help, Chumi!!! This was one of the shots I wasn’t able to complete on my own due to technical difficulties. I was able to do a decent bit of the Nannasprites and Erisolsprite, and then Chumi swooped in with the finish. Erisol at least gives a quarter of a fuck enough to drop his jaw a little in acknowledgement. + +
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+ + Chumi: And the happiest of them all... Thank you Davepeta, for being Vriska’s strongest multi-year supporter. They’re even crying tears of relief and you know what, so would I. + + Miles: In many ways the fate of a sprite is to be an agent of someone else’s journey, but 8 years in silent hill is vicious work. + +
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+ + Kim: There’s something so subtle but sweet about this particular drawing. It’s like as she looks down and realizes at this moment where she’s finally accepted herself as a whole, it’s a relief and almost... a surprise? Like she never would have thought she would have ever gotten this far... Oh, Vriska... Congratulations on making it this far...! + +
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+ + Floral: Another thing that when I boarded I had to like, I had to jump up and pace around the room about because the imagery made me so happy and hit the emotional, musical cue so well. Her cheshire grin as she totally fucks up Rose’s plan. + + Kim: This one was also pretty tricky because the initial idea behind the boards was that Vriska would be leaning her face in towards Rose kind smugly kinda like “guess whoooo,” but the actual composition in execution was tough to make it clear and appealing LOL. + +
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+ + Kim: AND HERE SHE IS IN ALL HER GLORY.... HELL TIER VRISKA!!! + + I put my whole entirety into this shot as this was the Full Reveal... the Money Shot!!! It’s funny because I think at a subconscious level I vaguely ended up mirroring Vriska’s other iconic God Tier fullbody panel to some extent, but now more evolved! + + My favorite particular design bits about her are her particularly sharper wings, saturated blue, and the fire trail behind her in place of her pixie dust trail. It’s everything about her, but AMPED UP!!! + + Chumi: AWW YEAH!!! The red pops so nicely against the blue... + + Sollay: Love her character design, btw!! + + Hone: ふつくしい…(She is so beautiful...) + +
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Hell Tier Vriska Concept Art by [[artist:haven-daniels-taylor]]
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Hell Tier Vriska Concept Art by [[artist:andi-r]]
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Hell Tier Vriska Concept Art and Explorations by [[artist:kim-quach]]
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[Page 4069](https://homestuck.com/005969) from Homestuck
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+ + Floral: An idea that came later into production, but it was so fun giving the prior Bec Noir the death he deserved. + + Kim: Karkat standing proudly atop the King Krab tank as he slays BecMech... (Mech Noir?) + + Miles: Bake Noir? + + Kim: We wanted to be sure Karkat had his moment in the flash as well. Considering this is a war between trolls vs humans (or rather, Jane), we can’t have the troll resistance’s leader taking a backseat to all the action! He needs his win! + +
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+ + Kim: Here’s the less cool version of this shot that I mock animated in CSP for the compositors LOL. Vriska’s flying so fast through the battlefield, she’s setting the ground on fire!!! + + Chumi: Killing these guys Among Us style, with the funny single bone poking out of their torso. + + Kim: It’s true, all Crocker Goon clones are only born with one bone. (JOKE) + + Spicyyeti: haven made me animate the last goon jumping into her sword + +
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+ + Isaac: Hell Tier Vriska <3!!!!!! + + Floral: I helped animate this part too and god, when we saw it all together, it was amazing. Vriska fully harnessing her light powers to deliver the most relevant strike the Candyverse has ever seen. + +
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+ + Isaac: A big aerial shot of the battlefield!! Woohoo!! The placement of everything was a little tricky considering all the action leading up to it, but it worked out! It’s also pretty cool that I got to do a shot of pre and post-war battlefields. This battlefield is family to me now. + +
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+ + Ozzy: Sketch vs final of Jane squinting at Vriska’s approach!! Sometimes you get lucky enough where the sketch comes out clean enough that it can practically work as lineart. This was one of those happy accidents. + + Sollay: Her bloody “ughhgh wtf else is going on up there now” face is so funny to me. She’s basically holding her own against the rest of the Candy cast. You can say anything you want about this version of her, but you have to admit she’s been quite impressive. I’ll be the sole villain arc Jane enjoyer if I have to. + +
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+ + Kim: I’m a fan of how much Hell Tier Vriska’s face and details can distort in certain shots. She’s really just Cartoon. (Preemptively calling myself out, don’t mind the fact her wings and sash are missing here LOL. This shot is a lot more zoomed in the final so they inevitably were just cut off-screen.) + +
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+ + Isaac: I did my best to find the photo of me flipping this explosion off but sadly it’s lost in the depths of my phone. Homestuck has so many great explosions. I’ll never take them for granted again. + + Miles: This shot was so, so sick, though, and one of the things I remember us talking about super duper early into the planning of this flash. You totally crushed it. As soon as we had the general idea of what was happening here our minds, NATURALLY, returned to that most illustrious of masterpieces, Super Smash Bros. Brawl (2007) for the Nintendo Wii, and one of the craziest shots in that entire immaculate saga that was the Subspace Emissary story mode: Kirby airstriking Bowser and Ganondorf’s ship with the Dragoon. The thing about Subspace Emissary- \*remembers we’re doing Homestuck right now\* The thing about Homestuck is that every now and then, you need to let a character really shine by blowing up something huge. This whole flash was rife with gorgeous action sequences but the final bit of Hell Tier Vriska tearing through the battlefield like an angel on meth is something I keep going back to. It almost makes you sad that generally there isn’t much sound design done for Homestuck flashes, because this would be a great place to get really chaotic and lasery with it. + +
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+ + Isaac: Awesome Hell Vriska slice!!!! This shot is so fun. The ship hull is loosely off of fishing trawlers for anyone curious at all. I’m glad there ended up being a zoom-in to the tiny jane, too :P + +
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+ + Kim: And finally... we’ve reached the LAST character shot of the flash. This particular moment whips by so quickly it’ll give you whiplash, but luckily here in our lovely commentary you guys can now drink up this shot in its full glory! (Plus, I worked hard on it, so please do help yourself to viewing it HAHA.) + +
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+ + Spicyyeti: i became mischievous. when kim showed his drawing of the last shot, i asked him to expand the background so that the camera could continue upward after tracking vriska to jane’s neck. with this camera movement it FEELS like the motion is followed through, even though it isn’t. Or is it? + +
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+ + Spicyyeti: the talking head was outside the bounds of the flash but i suggested it. and everyone kept saying “why not?” jokingly until they started saying “why not.” seriously. think reanimator, or haunted mansion 2003, or lollipop chainsaw, but especially susie summer killer7...... + +
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+ + Miles: That call was hilarious because I think the transition from joke to serious was maybe less than a minute. Literally as soon as we started talking about it I went into the doc for the next update and replaced every dialogue instance of “Jane” with “Jane’s head” and just kept laughing and laughing; it changed basically nothing about how the update needed to be written but an already funny gag was taken to crazier and more hilarious heights. I guess I’ll save the rest of this for the next commentary, but seriously choice suggestion from Carmi, who saved our lives in so many ways on this animation it’d take an entire other commentary to list them all. + + Floral: It was an amazing idea and EXACTLY what the flash needed. And honestly the most Homestuck way to handle the conflict. + +
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Art by [[artist:chumi]]
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+ + Chumi: I did the very first shot of the whole flash... and now I end my work with the very last shot! Hell tier fire upon ye. 🫵 + + Compositing Process + + Spicyyeti: YOU DONT KNOW HOW CLOSE I CAME TO REPLICATING CLASSIC HOMESTUCK IN-BROWSER .SWFS WHILE DEVELOPING THIS FLASH. YOU KNOW, THE ONES ADOBE FUCKING DESTROYEd2?2?2?????!!!!??!!!!??????!????? But i ran out of time so we used an mp4 (with custom programmed controls to trick you.) + + Spicyyeti: the process of exporting this flash, from my end, looked something like this + + + + + + + + Spicyyeti: pulling all this back up i dont wanna relive the trauma. im not even gonna bother to try explaining JHDGAKJLGDHGDS ill just link [the flash guide](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ptXftiK50YdbI1k65LFZSLdNN2N9SZJVgPVdt-1z8T8/edit?usp=sharing) i wrote for this project, which is sort of a tutorial for doing all the shit i did. + + Spicyyeti: i plan to release the guide publicly the next time i finish a flash using the swf-replacement method that i ACTUALLY DID FINISH DEVELOPING FOR THIS PROJECT, I JUST DIDNT HAVE TIME TO CONVERT THE WHOLE THING BEFORE IT CAME OUT KAGLSKDAJF. kohi put me onto an adobe animate extension called pixianimate. its kind of abandoned, but basically what it can do is export your animation to webgl which has + + - pixel-perfect quality + - good performance, equal to swfs + + so pixianimate has that over adobe animate’s built-in export to html5 feature that uses createJS (also abandoned). BUT with the built in feature you can export with + + - javascript (interactive features) + - sound + + i had to program custom features and basically build all that shit back in when i exported with pixi. but i found it to be worth it, because AA’s export to html5 has significantly worse performance than swfs. and what we wanna do here is create a product either equal or better to what was done with flash-player in the beforetimes. next time…the flash wont be an mp4. I Can Tell You That Much. + + Miles: Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! + +
+ Kim: PHEW that was quite the hearty commentary wasn’t it, fellas? Look forward to the next one cos there’s definitely so much to cover for the upcoming update! (Honestly, when isn’t there?) Thanks for reading, as always! +--- Act: Official extras Directory: official-extras Color: '#bb44ff' @@ -5801,7 +7200,7 @@ Contributors: - 'Pip Dillistone (writing: Hamifi)' - 'Xamag (art: characters)' - 'Charlie Flocke (art: backgrounds)' -- 'ragnarozzy (art: backgrounds)' +- 'ozmodai (art: backgrounds)' - 'big chalupa (art: backgrounds)' - 'Spruik (art: endings)' - Kohi (programming) @@ -5839,7 +7238,7 @@ Contributors: - 'Pip Dillistone (writing: Husske)' - 'Spruik (art: characters, endings)' - 'Charlie Flocke (art: backgrounds)' -- 'ragnarozzy (art: backgrounds)' +- 'ozmodai (art: backgrounds)' - 'big chalupa (art: backgrounds, endings)' - 'Xamag (art: backgrounds)' - 'Chumi (art: backgrounds)' @@ -5862,7 +7261,7 @@ Contributors: - 'Spruik (writing: Endari, art: backgrounds)' - 'Pip Dillistone (writing: Oricka)' - 'big chalupa (art: Endari, endings)' -- 'ragnarozzy (art: Oricka, backgrounds, endings)' +- 'ozmodai (art: Oricka, backgrounds, endings)' - 'Charlie Flocke (art: backgrounds)' - 'Chumi (art: backgrounds)' - 'eddieDraws (art: backgrounds)' @@ -5914,7 +7313,7 @@ Contributors: - 'SilentNeptune (art: Raurou)' - 'Charlie Flocke (art: Cadlys)' - 'Spruik (art: Yeshin, backgrounds)' -- 'ragnarozzy (art: backgrounds)' +- 'ozmodai (art: backgrounds)' - 'big chalupa (art: backgrounds)' - 'Chumi (art: backgrounds, endings)' - 'eddieDraws (art: backgrounds)' @@ -5936,7 +7335,7 @@ Contributors: - 'Austinado (writing: Necron)' - 'decadencethief (writing: Necron)' - 'pragmaticNihilist (writing: Gerbat)' -- 'ragnarozzy (art: Necron)' +- 'ozmodai (art: Necron)' - 'Xamag (art: Gerbat, Pozzol, Cretas, backgrounds, endings)' - 'Spruik (art: Talald)' - 'Charlie Flocke (art: backgrounds)' @@ -5961,7 +7360,7 @@ Contributors: - 'decadencethief (writing: Valtel)' - 'Alienoid (writing: Sabine)' - 'Austinado (writing: Sabine)' -- 'ragnarozzy (art: Valtel)' +- 'ozmodai (art: Valtel)' - 'banavalope (art: Sabine)' - 'Charlie Flocke (art: backgrounds)' - 'Xamag (art: backgrounds, endings)' @@ -6052,7 +7451,7 @@ Contributors: - 'pragmaticNihilist (writing: endings)' - 'Spruik (art: Yeshin)' - 'banavalope (art: Aumtzi)' -- 'ragnarozzy (art: backgrounds)' +- 'ozmodai (art: backgrounds)' - 'SilentNeptune (art: backgrounds)' - 'Olschu (art: backgrounds)' - 'Dust Medium (art: backgrounds)' @@ -6104,7 +7503,7 @@ Contributors: - 'eddieDraws (writing: act 3)' - 'decadencethief (writing: act 3)' - 'Xamag (art: characters, backgrounds)' -- 'ragnarozzy (art: characters)' +- 'ozmodai (art: characters)' - 'SilentNeptune (art: characters)' - 'Sparaze (art: characters)' - 'Dust Medium (art: backgrounds)' -- cgit 1.3.0-6-gf8a5