From 2ffb4c3eb0a8bf0392961b1c60a095d85350d49f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Lilithtreasure <62890895+Lilithtreasure@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2025 16:33:59 -0400 Subject: penumbra phantasm has doctor, referencing sources --- album/more-homestuck-fandom.yaml | 104 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 104 insertions(+) diff --git a/album/more-homestuck-fandom.yaml b/album/more-homestuck-fandom.yaml index c56cfe8e..0f991197 100644 --- a/album/more-homestuck-fandom.yaml +++ b/album/more-homestuck-fandom.yaml @@ -1325,6 +1325,110 @@ URLs: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdntMzdkFnk Referenced Tracks: - Doctor +Referencing Sources: +- Date: February 24, 2023 + Artists: [Makin, Niklink] + Annotation: >- + [HSMusic Discord](https://discord.com/channels/749042497610842152/779895315750715422/1078897493133246495), excerpt + Body: |- + Makin:
+ > ok question. + > does [[track:doctor|doctor]] reference penumbral phantasm, or is it the other way around?
+ > the wiki doesnt say and i couldnt find the info anywhwere else online (albeit i only looked briefly). is that like. unknown? - Dyst
+ + neither
+ the original pp was a melody that was quoted in [[Savior of the Waking World|savior of the waking world]], which combines doctor and penumbra phantasm successfully and inspired a lot of pp remixes with doctor in them
+ and every version of PP that has leaked is post sotww I think
+ I guess you can make a case that all existing versions of PP reference doctor
+ definitely not the other way around + + [...] + + Niklink:
+ there's this one part of PP that sounds almost identical to the first few notes of doctor and they often get blurred together +- Date: October 4, 2024 + Artists: [Jebb] + Annotation: >- + [HSMusic Discord](https://discord.com/channels/749042497610842152/749067042250031214/1291751049094365314), excerpt + Body: |- + Jebb:
+ Well, very little is known about penumbra phantasm
+ It's referenced in like 1 toby track
+ Its melody is heavily based on [[Doctor|Doctor's]]
+ There's a piano sketch and [[track:null-vol8|a tiny teaser]] i think
+ That's more or less it
+- Date: May 20, 2025 + Artists: [ruby] + Annotation: >- + [HSMusic Discord](https://discord.com/channels/749042497610842152/779895315750715422/1374380935771984012), excerpt + Body: |- + ruby:
+ [...]
+ but the part of pp itself is undeniably based on [[Doctor|doctor]] +- Date: November 22, 2025 + Artist Text: >- + [[artist:ruby]], + [[artist:wertercatt]], + [[artist:rainy]], + [[artist:makin]], + [[artist:lilithtreasure]], + [[artist:jebb]], and + [[artist:quasar-nebula|Lan]] + Annotation: >- + [HSMusic Discord](https://discord.com/channels/749042497610842152/779895315750715422/1419705641932423219), excerpt + Body: |- + ruby:
+ the riff in [[track:hopes-and-dreams|HaD]] is identical to pp, but it in pp is based on [[Doctor]] + + [...] + + wertercatt:
+ Should we stick a
+ ``` + Referenced Tracks: + - track:doctor + ``` + + onto Penumba by the way? Currently it's displayed as if it's a completely original track.
+ Rainy:
+ Yeah actually why wasn't that the case before
+ ruby:
+ [...]
+ because we established it's referencing penumbra
+ something from penumbra that is derived from doctor
+ [...]
+ onto penumbra? Yeah
+ wertercatt:
+ This track is presented as if it doesn't reference anything.
+ ruby:
+ surprising we don't
+ the main riff, while technically unique, is 100% based on doctor's
+ + [...] + + Makin:
+ I think it's just time to retire the "it's penumbra when doctor is one note off" and just admit it's a doctor variation that PP used + + [...] + + wertercatt:
+ Penumbra still needs Doctor added to its references tho. + + [...] + + Lilithtreasure:
+ it's surprising that penumbra isn't listed as referencing doctor, but [[track:patient|patient]] is
+ Rainy:
+ yeah that's odd
+ Jebb:
+ Wait why does it not have doctor listed
+ Lan:
+ It's an oversight!! + + [...] + + Lan:
+ Guys, I swear, it's an oversight. This one - I do believe - is not intentional. --- Track: Plasmatic Blaquaciousness Artists: -- cgit 1.3.0-6-gf8a5