under the hat 2

4 files changed, 78 insertions, 5 deletions

diff --git a/album/alterniabound.yaml b/album/alterniabound.yaml
index 6dcbdbdd..cd471db2 100644
--- a/album/alterniabound.yaml
+++ b/album/alterniabound.yaml
@@ -265,7 +265,6 @@ Track Artwork:
   - 'cw: hanging'
 Referenced Tracks:
 - Trollcops (Radio Play)
-- track:under-the-hat-lofam
 Sheet Music Files:
 - Title: Sheet music by Erik Scheele (original composer)
   Files:
@@ -282,15 +281,21 @@ Commentary: |-
 
     (Alternate Universe Intermission)
 
-    So this pretty much happened when Radiation went "yo jit make something" and I was like "okay", and then later I was like "bluuuuuuh don't know what to write", and then Radiation went "do trollcops", and I went "no that's dumb, stupid dumb, what is trollcops even", and Radiation went "DO IT JIT YOU BUTT", and I was like "NO RADIATION I HATE EVERYTHING". And then, Mellotron samples happened, and here we are. Also, it should be pointed out that in [[Trollcops (Radio Play)|the version with vocals]], there's a name drop of [[track:under-the-hat-lofam|the fan music piece]] that this is based off of. Yes, it takes this long to re-use things, sometimes.
+    So this pretty much happened when Radiation went "yo jit make something" and I was like "okay", and then later I was like "bluuuuuuh don't know what to write", and then Radiation went "do trollcops", and I went "no that's dumb, stupid dumb, what is trollcops even", and Radiation went "DO IT JIT YOU BUTT", and I was like "NO RADIATION I HATE EVERYTHING". And then, Mellotron samples happened, and here we are. Also, it should be pointed out that in [[Trollcops (Radio Play)|the version with vocals]], there's a name drop of [[track:under-the-hat-original|the fan music piece]] that this is based off of. Yes, it takes this long to re-use things, sometimes.
 
     Besides that, I dunno, just enjoy it.
 
     <i>Toby Fox:</i> (album organizer, booklet commentary)
 
-    Don't tell anyone, but this is actually a remix of one of Jit's old fansongs called [[track:under-the-hat-lofam|'Under the Hat,']] which was a battle theme for Dad. So if your heart still pines for him... his soul and pipe are contained deep within this track.
+    Don't tell anyone, but this is actually a remix of one of Jit's old fansongs called [[track:under-the-hat-original|'Under the Hat,']] which was a battle theme for Dad. So if your heart still pines for him... his soul and pipe are contained deep within this track.
 
     So damn catchy and sleuthy.
+
+    <i>Quasar Nebula:</i> (wiki editor, 8/13/2025)
+
+    On the wiki we used to mark this track as referencing the version [[track:under-the-hat-lofam|from Land of Fans and Music]], probably just because *obviously* that is a fansong and both Trollcops and the later release [[track:under-the-hat|on One Year older]] are not. We've revisited the context and changed both tracks to point to a hypothetical [[track:under-the-hat-original|original version]] we think was publicly released at some point earlier back, but haven't actually found.
+
+    This track and the piano version on One Year Older are quite similar arrangements, so we're confident there's a reference between the two. We aren't so sure what direction the reference goes - we don't know which came first. One Year Older released over a year after AlterniaBound (ha), but the recording included there was first posted [on Tumblr](https://jitmakesstuff.tumblr.com/post/5889719815/and-now-more-piano-recordings-so-i-discovered) in May 2011, just two months following AlterniaBound. And that one might have been recorded some amount of time earlier than it was posted - possibly preceding when this track, Trollcops, was produced for AlterniaBound.
 ---
 Track: 'BL1ND JUST1C3 : 1NV3ST1G4T1ON !!'
 Additional Names:
@@ -1399,7 +1404,7 @@ Track Artwork:
   - Alternia
   - 'cw: cops'
 Referenced Tracks:
-- track:under-the-hat-lofam
+- track:under-the-hat-original
 Lyrics: |-
     (Alternia: One of the roughest beats in the universe. It's a tough job to keep it safe, and an even tougher job to find people who'll keep it that way. She's a gal with a knack for justice and has the force under her thumb. He's a guy who just joined the APD and finding his bearings is about as easy as feeding a Gyclops his cough syrup. And together, they are Trollcops.)
 
diff --git a/album/lofam.yaml b/album/lofam.yaml
index 3f80d3d5..9ba450e5 100644
--- a/album/lofam.yaml
+++ b/album/lofam.yaml
@@ -1127,6 +1127,8 @@ Cover Artists:
 - TheifofTruth
 Art Tags:
 - John
+Referenced Tracks:
+- track:under-the-hat-original
 MIDI Project Files:
 - Title: MIDI by Twix Stix (from Sburbmon)
   Files:
@@ -1139,6 +1141,10 @@ Commentary: |-
     <i>TheifofTruth:</i> (booklet commentary)
 
     Well, this is the only one I actually tried on so I guess that's good it's the only one that got chosen. I now realize the pipe is out of proportion or those are really big pictures. I like it though.
+
+    <i>Quasar Nebula:</i> (wiki editor, 8/13/2025)
+
+    Though it's a different recording, this arrangement is also included on the sound test as "Strrife! Under The Hat". (The capitalization and/or punctuation may be editorialized there.) We aren't sure where or when that version of the track was released.
 ---
 Track: Sburban Piano Doctor
 Additional Names:
diff --git a/album/more-homestuck-fandom.yaml b/album/more-homestuck-fandom.yaml
index 1ab4fe0b..3e6afb1e 100644
--- a/album/more-homestuck-fandom.yaml
+++ b/album/more-homestuck-fandom.yaml
@@ -1570,6 +1570,30 @@ URLs:
 Referenced Tracks:
 - track:three-in-the-morning
 ---
+Track: Under The Hat (original)
+Artists:
+- Erik Scheele
+Commentary: |-
+    <i>Quasar Nebula:</i> (wiki editor, 8/13/2025)
+
+    Theoretial common root for the versions of this track released [[track:under-the-hat|on One Year Older]] and [[track:under-the-hat-lofam|on Land of Fans and Music]].
+
+    The booklet commentary on [[track:trollcops]] makes reference to a "fan music piece" called Under the Hat, and gives the impression that this track was publicly listenable, just unofficially/independently released or posted:
+
+    > Also, it should be pointed out that in [[Trollcops (Radio Play)|the version with vocals]], there's a name drop of [[track:under-the-hat-lofam|the fan music piece]] that this is based off of. Yes, it takes this long to re-use things, sometimes.
+
+    Meanwhile [the Tumblr commentary](https://jitmakesstuff.tumblr.com/post/5889719815/and-now-more-piano-recordings-so-i-discovered) for [[track:under-the-hat|the One Year Older version]], recorded either in May 2011 or some amount of time earlier, describes that arrangement this way:
+
+    > In other words, it’s played plain, then with an improvised solo (that has some sucky bits), then through again with a little reprise.
+
+    And *[[track:under-the-hat-lofam|the LOFAM commentary]]* describes the more energetic arrangement there, this way:
+
+    > So this started off as some music for Dad. And then I was like "this isn't strife-y enough!" cause it was supposed to be strife-y and then this happened. Since it's supposed to be battle music and all, the more laid-back chill version wouldn't really work.
+
+    So this track in particular - "original", which is an unofficial title we've given it - is a recording of the track before it had ever been arranged further, "laid-back" and "chill" and simply "played plain".
+
+    We haven't found this track, but figure it's substantially older than March 2011. (Booklet commentary: "It takes this long to re-use things, sometimes.")
+---
 Track: The Undying
 Artists:
 - James Dever
diff --git a/album/one-year-older.yaml b/album/one-year-older.yaml
index 0b2acc31..f3b77de1 100644
--- a/album/one-year-older.yaml
+++ b/album/one-year-older.yaml
@@ -568,13 +568,17 @@ Additional Names:
     Under The Hat (Bonus)
   Annotation: >-
     [composer's release](https://erikscheele.bandcamp.com/track/under-the-hat-bonus)
+- Name: >-
+    trollcopsjammin.mp3
+  Annotation: >-
+    [Tumblr filename](https://www.tumblr.com/jitmakesstuff/5889719815/and-now-more-piano-recordings-so-i-discovered)
 Duration: 3:27
 URLs:
 - https://erikscheele.bandcamp.com/track/under-the-hat-bonus
 - https://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/under-the-hat-bonus
 - https://youtu.be/tBfUV056rjo
 Referenced Tracks:
-- track:under-the-hat-lofam
+- Trollcops
 Sheet Music Files:
 - Title: Piano score by Erik Scheele (original composer)
   Files:
@@ -593,6 +597,40 @@ Commentary: |-
     Of course, not being able to play something magnificently and to the best form of the genre didn't really stop me from playing around with this piece. So I did.
 
     I also think it would fit in during the first Intermission, with all the under-the-hat chicanery and stabbings that went on.
+
+    <i>Erik Scheele:</i> ([Tumblr](https://jitmakesstuff.tumblr.com/post/5889719815/and-now-more-piano-recordings-so-i-discovered), 5/27/2011)
+
+    And now, more piano recordings.
+
+    So I discovered that the Under the Hat (aka Trollcops) changes can get an incredible jive to them. But this one other time, that’s in the recording here, I played around with it.
+
+    In other words, it’s played plain, then with an improvised solo (that has some sucky bits), then through again with a little reprise.
+
+    Hope you enjoooooy
+
+    <i>Quasar Nebula:</i> (wiki editor, 8/13/2025)
+
+    This version from One Year Older was first released [on Tumblr](https://jitmakesstuff.tumblr.com/post/5889719815/and-now-more-piano-recordings-so-i-discovered) in May 2011. (The download is dead, but it's preserved [in the sound test](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_1Hl0I-KsI). It's actually the same recording!)
+
+    Although the release of [[album:alterniabound]] and this Tumblr recording are only about two months apart, and the Tumblr commentary above is written some amount of time in retrospect, we still figure that [[track:trollcops]] precedes this piano improv/arrangement. Voila the reasoning:
+
+    - This track is contextualized with "Under the Hat (aka Trollcops) changes can get an incredible jive to them."
+    - This track's filename (as posted on Tumblr) is <code class="filename">trollcopsjammin.mp3</code>.
+    - The booklet commentary for Trollcops makes it pretty clear that the mellotron saved that track, probably during when it was being arranged.
+
+    We're confident they're referencing each other one way or the other; besides the structure, the improv/solo sections have particular common material. But since the timeframe is ambiguous and our reasoning above is a bit shenanigans, "which came first?" could still go either way.
+
+    As for the "chiptune version" which Scheele refers to in the booklet commentary for *this* release, August 2012, on One Year Older? Totally a mystery! We've seen no sign of that one anywhere, online.
+
+    And one more Tumblr post [from August 2011](https://www.tumblr.com/jitmakesstuff/8392340269/and-then-one-time-i-improvised-around-on-piano):
+
+    > And then one time I improvised around on piano with Trollcops. And thought it was good enough to like, post around and such.<br>
+    > What a stupid idea that was<br>
+    > \*laugh track\*
+    >
+    > (although in all honesty this is probably some of the better solo improvising I've done and managed to catch on recording)
+
+    It might have been a reupload of this same recording, though we can't tell because the SoundCloud upload, "under-the-hat-stuff", has gone missing. If it was a reupload (the original was just via Dropbox) then it maybe makes sense that it was removed in favor of the proper album release on Bandcamp, but that's speculation.
 ---
 Track: Mother (Piano)
 Additional Names: