hunzhen fixes & feedback, related ref sources

Resolves #713

1 files changed, 119 insertions, 6 deletions

diff --git a/album/homestuck-vol-5.yaml b/album/homestuck-vol-5.yaml
index 33c6da76..5bca0c72 100644
--- a/album/homestuck-vol-5.yaml
+++ b/album/homestuck-vol-5.yaml
@@ -556,6 +556,7 @@ Track Artwork:
   Tags:
   - PM
 Referenced Tracks:
+- Skies of Skaia
 - Liquid Negrocity
 Sheet Music Files:
 - Title: Piano score by silverseer
@@ -587,6 +588,14 @@ Commentary: |-
     <i>Quasar Nebula:</i> (wiki editor, 2/4/2024)
 
     The "made cooler" post has the cover that's literally cooler (in blue tones), and the artwork anthology download includes that version, so it's the main artwork on this track page. The original version is in the commentary above!
+Referencing Sources: |-
+    <i>HunZhen:</i> ([[static:feedback|email feedback]], excerpt, 2/25/2025)
+
+    At 1:07 in "White", there is a little reference about [[track:skies-of-skaia|"Skies of Skaia"]] from vol.1
+
+    <i>Quasar Nebula:</i> ([HSMusic Discord](https://discord.com/channels/749042497610842152/1353743089164095548/1381953184569884754) re: [[track:skies-of-skaia]] ref, excerpt, 6/10/2025)
+
+    Does this go before or after the existing [[Liquid Negrocity]] reference? I'm presently placing it before (and committing this ref), because the Liquid Negrocity motif is really obviously and unambiguously used at the end of the track, ~1:18. But there's probably a case that the main looping motif in the track is also derived from LN to the point of being a reference, so the LN ref comes up and should be placed first.
 ---
 Track: Octoroon Rangoon
 Artists:
@@ -622,6 +631,101 @@ Review Points:
   - Date: July 2, 2024
     Annotation: "#music-discussion"
     URL: https://discord.com/channels/749042497610842152/749067042250031214/1257691332286222418
+Referencing Sources:
+- Date: July 2, 2024
+  Artists: [ruby, Quasar Nebula, Makin, Interrobang]
+  Annotation: >-
+    [HSMusic Discord](https://discord.com/channels/749042497610842152/749067042250031214/1257691332286222418), excerpt
+  Body: |-
+    <i>ruby:</i><br>
+    Octoroon Rangoon references [[Penumbra Phantasm]] as 1m05s
+
+    <i>Quasar Nebula:</i><br>
+    How confident do you feel about this? I know you're more musically minded than most people who go "oh shit it's Gaster's Theme", but I'd like to hear a bit more critique/review on this reference from you and from other people
+
+    <i>ruby:</i><br>
+    it's playing the piano riff on the piano sound<br>
+    let me get some comparisons
+
+    <audio src="media/misc/octoroon-rangoon/octoroon piano.wav"></audio>
+
+    <audio src="media/misc/octoroon-rangoon/penumbra flute.wav"></audio>
+
+    also being played on the same sgm piano that's used in versions of pp + other times toby references the song (like [[Descend]])
+
+    <audio src="media/misc/octoroon-rangoon/Descend.wav"></audio>
+
+    <i>Makin:</i><br>
+    the issue morris is that I hear the first half of your octoroon piano but not the second, whatever notes are there are swallowed by everything else<br>
+    it *could* be PP but if it's not actually resolved in the final version of the song I wouldn't count it
+
+    <i>Interrobang:</i><br>
+    Part of me wants to just defer to whatever toby put in the track description since hes the only one who really knows what is and isnt penumbra<br>
+    But also they definitely werent always thorough on the hs bandcamp
+
+    <i>ruby:</i><br>
+    I feel like it's a case of [[Hopes and Dreams]], where it's close enough to where he has had to have realized he put it in if he did do it accidentally
+
+    <i>Interrobang:</i> I dont really know what you mean<br>
+    <i>Makin:</i> I'm still unconvinced about hopes and dreams lol<br>
+    <i>Interrobang:</i> Whats the hopes and dreams thing
+
+    [...]
+
+    [re: Penumbra Phantasm in Hopes and Dreams]<br>
+    <i>Interrobang:</i> Yeah i cant say im convinced<br>
+    <i>Interrobang:</i> I think the octoroon rangoon one is more likely though<br>
+    <i>Makin:</i> same
+
+    <i>Interrobang:</i><br>
+    My suspicion is that toby fox stopped thinking about penumbra so much after a point
+
+    <i>Makin:</i><br>
+    yeah he instead started focusing on thinking about the baby is 2 so he could [[track:battle-battle-tower|reuse it in a pokemon theme]]
+- Date: February 25, 2025
+  Artists: [HunZhen]
+  Annotation: >-
+    [[static:feedback|email feedback]]
+  Body: |-
+    At 1:47 in "Octoroon Rangoon" there were some arps, and this sounds for me like a reference of [[track:showtime-original-mix|"Showtime"]] from vol.1 (yeah I'm not sure about that but consider about it)
+- Date: May 25, 2018
+  Access Date: June 10, 2025
+  Artists: [Virdamo]
+  Annotation: >-
+    [YouTube comment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seJrIQdZRsY&lc=Ugwc-owYBzjrGfmtREF4AaABAg)
+    with 322 likes
+  Body: |-
+    List of leitmotifs used in here:
+
+    0:03 [[track:im-a-member-of-the-midnight-crew|I'm a member of the Midnight Crew]]<br>
+    0:19 [[track:chorale-for-jaspers|Chorale]]<br>
+    0:27 [[track:black|Black]]<br>
+    0:48 [[track:the-ballad-of-jack-noir|Ballad of Jack Noir]]<br>
+    0:59 [[track:im-a-member-of-the-midnight-crew|I'm a member of the Midnight Crew]]<br>
+    1:05 [[track:penumbra-phantasm|Penumbra Phantasm]] (along with [[track:im-a-member-of-the-midnight-crew|I'm a member of the Midnight Crew]])<br>
+    1:18 [[track:non-compos-mentis|Non Compos Mentis]]<br>
+    1:23 [[track:chorale-for-jaspers|Chorale]] (variation, mixed with [[track:the-ballad-of-jack-noir|Ballad of Jack Noir]])<br>
+    1:33 [[Black]] (again, along with [[track:chorale-for-jaspers|Chorale]])<br>
+    1:47 [[track:the-ballad-of-jack-noir|Ballad of Jack Noir]]<br>
+    2:00 "Make her a member of the Midnight Crew"
+
+    In conclusion, one big Noir mix.
+- Date: April 1, 2019
+  Access Date: June 10, 2025
+  Artists: [Ton berry]
+  Annotation: >-
+    [YouTube reply](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seJrIQdZRsY&lc=Ugwc-owYBzjrGfmtREF4AaABAg.8gf9iLZUqMO8tAWKzPSHnN)
+    with 11 likes
+  Body: |-
+    1:05 actually sounds like [[Doctor]] to me
+- Date: January 23, 2021
+  Access Date: June 10, 2025
+  Artists: [Emerald 1337 aka funny gamer guy]
+  Annotation: >-
+    [YouTube reply](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seJrIQdZRsY&lc=Ugwc-owYBzjrGfmtREF4AaABAg.8gf9iLZUqMO9IrzPzgc2Ao)
+    with 5 likes
+  Body: |-
+    You missed: at 1:47, [[track:showtime-original-mix|Showtime]]. To be specific, Harleintro.
 ---
 Track: Pumpkin Cravings
 Artists:
@@ -642,6 +746,12 @@ Track Artwork:
   - Dave
   - Jade
   - 'cw: eye horror'
+Commentary: |-
+    <i>Xagave:</i> (anthology artist, [Tumblr](https://freckledoctopus.tumblr.com/post/159662103553/forgot-to-post-this-individually-but-this-was-my), 4/16/2017)
+
+    forgot to post this individually, but this was my contribution to the HS album [volume 5 Anthology](https://vol5anthology.tumblr.com/post/159528808107/hey-everyone-its-413-and-that-means-we-have)! the song I was given was Pumpkin Cravings which was described as representing both Homestuck and MSPA as a whole —so to try and fit the song I thought combining both Problem Sleuth and HS was the way to go ^_^
+
+    <small>#i had fun contributing to this though i admittedly rushed at the end because of my school projects taking up most of my time</small>
 ---
 Track: Welcome to the New Extreme
 Artists:
@@ -666,12 +776,6 @@ Track Artwork:
   - Derse
 Referenced Tracks:
 - Sburban Jungle
-Commentary: |-
-    <i>Xagave:</i> (anthology artist, [Tumblr](https://freckledoctopus.tumblr.com/post/159662103553/forgot-to-post-this-individually-but-this-was-my), 4/16/2017)
-
-    forgot to post this individually, but this was my contribution to the HS album [volume 5 Anthology](https://vol5anthology.tumblr.com/post/159528808107/hey-everyone-its-413-and-that-means-we-have)! the song I was given was Pumpkin Cravings which was described as representing both Homestuck and MSPA as a whole —so to try and fit the song I thought combining both Problem Sleuth and HS was the way to go ^_^
-
-    <small>#i had fun contributing to this though i admittedly rushed at the end because of my school projects taking up most of my time</small>
 ---
 Track: Crystalanthemums
 Artists:
@@ -871,12 +975,21 @@ Track Artwork:
   - Royal Deringer
 Referenced Tracks:
 - Clockwork Melody
+- Dissension (Remix)
 Commentary: |-
     <i>Prince:</i> (anthology artist, [Tumblr](https://catprinx.tumblr.com/post/159545290361/heres-what-i-did-for-the-song-clockwork-sorrow), 4/13/2017)
 
     Here’s what I did for the song Clockwork Sorrow for the @vol5anthology!!!
 
     Thanks so much for letting me participate in this!
+Referencing Sources: |-
+    <i>HunZhen:</i> ([[static:feedback|email feedback]], excerpt, 2/25/2025)
+
+    At 0:41 in "Clorkwork Sorrow" there is a melody that reference to David's another track [[track:dissension-remix|"Dissension (Remix)"]] at 0:17 (vol.3)
+
+    <i>Quasar Nebula:</i> (wiki editor, 6/10/2025)
+
+    See also referencing sources for [[track:dissension-remix]], where HunZhen shared piano rolls for a handful of tracks, including this section of Clockwork Sorrow.
 ---
 Track: Phantasmagoric Waltz
 Artists: